# Men's Rights Movement may have a big future.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 7, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049 "2013-04-07T01:15:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/161 "2013-04-10T05:42:54Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> No, I think the OP took this thread off the rails with his paranoid distortions of what feminists stand for. Now it’s just kind of boring and redundant.

You _would_ say that, she-lady man hater!

Wait. Fuck. I did it again.

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/162 "2013-04-10T05:43:51Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> So, what’s your main occupation?

I thought you were going to guess!:smack:

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**Author:** ![Troppus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a587f6/32.png) [@Troppus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troppus)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/163 "2013-04-10T07:17:47Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> I have no resentment toward women. Could you please tell me what is your profession or may I take a guess?

If you’re serious about this equality stuff, you’ll have to call him a whore like you did me.

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**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/164 "2013-04-10T08:23:18Z")

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Hey look, I’m all for letting men treat women however they want to treat them. But women should also be allowed to treat other women any way they want as well. Equality!

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/165 "2013-04-10T10:38:53Z")

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My guesses:

**Ambivalid** : phone center worker.  
**CCitizen** : virgin.

Do I need to be present to win?

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**Author:** ![JLRogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@JLRogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JLRogers)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/166 "2013-04-10T10:54:18Z")

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I can’t bring myself to actually read multiple pages of a thread with a title extolling the virtues of Men’s Rights Advocacy. Is anyone taking it seriously?

Followup: Anyone unironically used the term “feminazi?”

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/167 "2013-04-10T16:01:15Z")

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> [@Troppus](#):
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> If you’re serious about this equality stuff, you’ll have to call him a whore like you did me.

I am sorry if my words offended anyone, but I have not used that word, nor did I flame first.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/168 "2013-04-10T16:07:14Z")

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If asking you when the last time you had sex constitutes a flame, no wonder you think men are oppressed.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/169 "2013-04-10T16:07:15Z")

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> [@JLRogers](#):
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> I can’t bring myself to actually read multiple pages of a thread with a title extolling the virtues of Men’s Rights Advocacy. Is anyone taking it seriously?

On the board where 91% of women and 61% of men are [feminist](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=4785) this issue was not well received.

Statistics for [americans in general](http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500160_162-965224.html) are different – on conservative boards I had success with the issue.

In any case I can discuss many of my other interests on this forum.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/170 "2013-04-10T16:08:29Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> If asking you when the last time you had sex constitutes a flame, no wonder you think men are oppressed.

It’s like asking a 60 yo lady if men find her as attractive as 40 years ago.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/171 "2013-04-10T16:17:33Z")

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Actually it’s nothing like that.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/172 "2013-04-10T16:19:57Z")

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I don’t get it. Like, when I posted on this board that vaccines cause autism, everyone shouted me down and said science proves otherwise. This issue was not well received. On conservative and mommy boards, I had success with the issue.

Clearly, the conclusion is that the Dope is flawed and I am definitely not the one with flawed logic here.

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**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/173 "2013-04-10T16:24:41Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> It’s like asking a 60 yo lady if men find her as attractive as 40 years ago.

Except it’s not at all.

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**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/174 "2013-04-10T16:37:14Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> On the board where 91% of women and 61% of men are [feminist](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=4785) this issue was not well received.
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> Statistics for [americans in general](http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500160_162-965224.html) are different – on conservative boards I had success with the issue.
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> In any case I can discuss many of my other interests on this forum.

Are we looking at the same poll 😕 Cause that one’s reading 48%/27%. And either way, you can’t really use that as an accurate read of the board. That’s just the percentages regarding the group of people who actually answered the poll. It’s not just a randomly selected group.

And as for the article, I wonder if their definition of a feminist (someone who believes in social, political, and economic equality of the sexes) matches yours. Cause I can guarantee you that most people are going to answer yes when it’s defined like that. Defining it as ‘someone who thinks men are evil and should be pushed back down from their centuries long position as king of the hill and made to eat circus peanuts forever’ might get some different results.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/175 "2013-04-10T16:37:27Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> Actually it’s nothing like that.

> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#):
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> Except it’s not at all.

Except when I used that same analogy on my Justin Bieber Harry Potter slash fanfic board, they totally agreed I was dead on. How embarrassing for you, tbh.

> [@AngelSoft](#):
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> Defining it as ‘someone who thinks men are evil and should be pushed back down from their centuries long position as king of the hill and made to eat circus peanuts forever’ might get some different results.

No, we definitely believe in that, too.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/176 "2013-04-10T16:54:10Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> I don’t get it. Like, when I posted on this board that vaccines cause autism, everyone shouted me down and said science proves otherwise. This issue was not well received. On conservative and mommy boards, I had success with the issue.
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> Clearly, the conclusion is that the Dope is flawed and I am definitely not the one with flawed logic here.

On political issues there may be different ideologies which can not be proved or disproved – only the free market of ideas can decide how many followers an idea gains.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/177 "2013-04-10T17:04:12Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> On political issues there may be different ideologies which can not be proved or disproved – only the free market of ideas can decide how many followers an idea gains.

Isn’t the free market of ideas subverted when you lie all the time?

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/178 "2013-04-10T17:04:17Z")

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> [@CCitizen](#):
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> On political issues there may be different ideologies which can not be proved or disproved – only the free market of ideas can decide how many followers an idea gains.

Wrong. Conservatives who don’t believe in evolution or global warming are objectively wrong. As are conservatives who believe a woman’s body has ways of shutting down a rape baby or vaccines cause autism. Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/179 "2013-04-10T17:15:11Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> Isn’t the free market of ideas subverted when you lie all the time?

I provided a link to the video of the events in question on youtube.

Some liberals classify their opponents ideas as lies and believe they should be forbidden.

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**Author:** ![CCitizen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@CCitizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CCitizen)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mens-rights-movement-may-have-a-big-future/655049/180 "2013-04-10T17:27:12Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Argumentum ad populum is a logical fallacy.

I am not going to discuss my ideas on evolution…

In any case, expressing ideas which bring the hostility of masses is scary. Knowing that at least a sizable minority shares my ideas is comforting.

I guess I should not have raised the issue on this board.

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