# 'Merica Back to Back World War Champs **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 1, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873 "2019-06-01T13:55:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2019, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/21 "2019-06-01T23:58:05Z")
actually for the longest time certain policy was dictated by the assumption that if ww3 started it was going to start as a USSR/US proxy war in the middle east like Israel or Iraq maybe even Kuwait (us side) invading Iran or syria or even occupied Afghanistan (the USSR side ) and then escalate ala WW1 desert storm changed that … ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/22 "2019-06-02T00:01:27Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > US should get a penalty for actually having draft riots that killed over a hundred people, rather than send men into combat against a white supremacist regime in the 1860s. > > If you can’t all agree that fighting to free slaves is a good cause, maybe you shouldn’t have pride in fighting a century later. now now that was them, newly arrived unwashed immigrant potato-headed micks in the Bowery that instigated that… wasn’t no true Americans nosiree :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/23 "2019-06-02T00:08:17Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So are people that get bent out of shape about it. It’s not the people who get bent out of shape by invasions that are the problem, it’s the ones that get blown to smithereens. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/24 "2019-06-02T00:17:15Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > US should get a penalty for actually having draft riots that killed over a hundred people, rather than send men into combat against a white supremacist regime in the 1860s. > > If you can’t all agree that fighting to free slaves is a good cause, maybe you shouldn’t have pride in fighting a century later. There’s a big difference between a bunch of guys in one city briefly rioting over being sent to fight, and the entire current Canadian government facing a crisis that threatened the entire war effort. I mean I know you’re angry and all about the recent revelation that Canada didn’t burn down the White House but don’t take it out on us. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/25 "2019-06-02T06:57:40Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > US should get a penalty for actually having draft riots that killed over a hundred people, rather than send men into combat against a white supremacist regime in the 1860s. > > If you can’t all agree that fighting to free slaves is a good cause, maybe you shouldn’t have pride in fighting a century later. From what I understand, they were rioting because poor people were being drafted while the rich were buying their way out. If anything, then, you should be criticizing the people who’d rather pay than fight. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/26 "2019-06-02T11:21:32Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > you should be criticizing the people who’d rather pay than fight. Who could you possibly have in mind… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/27 "2019-06-02T14:25:45Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > I mean I know you’re angry and all about the recent revelation that Canada didn’t burn down the White House but don’t take it out on us. You’re perfectly welcome to have another go right now! Just make sure the family’s home. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/28 "2019-06-02T15:15:56Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > On the back it should say: Then we CRUSHED THE VIET CONG…almost… Which reminds me of the old “Southeast Asia War Games – Second Place Participant” t-shirts. My brother, a career officer and vet of two tours there, had one as one of his “guilty pleasures”. [https://picclick.com/Participant-Southeast-Asia-War-Games-1961-1975-second-place-153433304724.html](https://picclick.com/Participant-Southeast-Asia-War-Games-1961-1975-second-place-153433304724.html) Which goes to the OP sort of; how we react personally to anything is just that – kind of personal. I see shirts almost every day at work (we all basically wear Ts) that annoy me or give me joy. Everything from “I really need one of those” to “what the hell are you thinking”. I guess its why I like t-shirts with slogans so much; they are a built-in excuse for me to approach strangers and engage them in conversation. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/29 "2019-06-02T17:26:14Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So are people that get bent out of shape about it. It’s fun to watch people get annoyed because they think that “light hearted” jokes about getting hundreds of thousands killed are in bad taste. I also like to take a shit in the middle of a Denny’s and laugh at the people who recoil in disgust. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/30 "2019-06-02T20:04:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > … I also like to take a shit in the middle of a Denny’s and laugh at the people who recoil in disgust. You do you, I guess. Doesn’t sound like my cup of tea. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/31 "2019-06-02T20:13:49Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > You do you, I guess. Doesn’t sound like my cup of tea. At least a quarter million people don’t get killed over my “lighthearted” joke. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/32 "2019-06-03T23:31:59Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Praise to the Loyds above that we do not base our military policy on internet memes. …are ya sure? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/33 "2019-06-03T23:38:15Z")
> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#): > > …are ya sure? Not as sure as I’d like to be, and that does concern me more than a little. ---
**Author:** ![Grestarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grestarian/32/3227_2.png) [@Grestarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grestarian)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/34 "2019-06-03T23:48:35Z")
> [@chela](#): > > Why in the world would someone make the tragedy of war into a pithy saying and wear it on their backs? …but…but…I thought that was the resolving answer to the 3-year old question of “When WAS America Great, that we want to go back to such times again?” It’s not about igniting a third so we can be champs and revel in the glory again. Is it? 😕 –G??? Graffiti from a door in Ensenada: Red Baseball cap with the words Make America Hate Again ---
**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2019, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873/35 "2019-06-04T13:35:49Z")
We are missing out on a few fairly significant events here so the term ‘World War’ is perhaps misleading - unless you want to call the following little league events, Seven Years wars - 1756 onwards, prety much all of Europe and their colonies were involved and it can be argued led to the creation of the US as an independent nation, along with setting up the borders of North and middle America, with the added bonus of kicking the French out of India. Napoleonic Wars - lasted a good 15 years or so and involved most of Europe and their colonies [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/merica-back-to-back-world-war-champs/834873.md?page=1)