# Message for Robert163 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 23, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353 "2015-04-23T13:05:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/1 "2015-04-23T13:05:14Z")
You are a lying sack of shit. You were a jackass last year in [and your latest crock of shit is [url=[Have a hard time respecting the moderately religious - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=728379)]this thread](]this thread[/url) in which you pulled for the umpteenth time [a completely dishonest portrayal of another poster’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18310203&postcount=885). Not only you a liar, but you are a troll. I seem to recall you basically admitting such in the thread from last year. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/2 "2015-04-23T13:15:30Z")
Damnit. I screwed up the first link. [Here is the thread from last year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=716253). ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/3 "2015-04-23T13:20:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Damnit. I screwed up the first link. [Here is the thread from last year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=716253). That was a great one. [“Anything I don’t understand is easy.”](http://dilbert.com/strip/1994-10-17) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/4 "2015-04-23T13:26:06Z")
Come on, **Monty** , you’ve been on the boards even longer than me. He’s an anti-religious troll and he’s not very bright. Why are you falling for his schtick when we all survived years of anti-God fapping from **Der Trihs** and the rest? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/5 "2015-04-23T13:48:28Z")
I learned to ignore **Der Trihs** and I can ignore this guy too. In fact it’s probably easier because **Der Trihs** occasionally had decent points even if he often followed them to insane extremes. This guy is either a clumsy troll or a clueless idiot and I’ve yet to see anything redeeming in his posts. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/6 "2015-04-23T14:28:55Z")
His posts about things which aren’t religion are usually okay. At least, I don’t remember any particularly stupid ones. Lest their be any confusion, I am totally on board with this pitting. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/7 "2015-04-23T16:05:20Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > This guy is either a clumsy troll or a clueless idiot Come now, couldn’t he be both? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/8 "2015-04-23T16:27:53Z")
You forgot “like the late Earl Warren”. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/9 "2015-04-23T16:34:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > His posts about things which aren’t religion are usually okay. At least, I don’t remember any particularly stupid ones. Lest their be any confusion, I am totally on board with this pitting. Oh, I think you’re just missing the other ones. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/10 "2015-04-23T17:18:24Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Come on, **Monty** , you’ve been on the boards even longer than me. He’s an anti-religious troll and he’s not very bright. Why are you falling for his schtick when we all survived years of anti-God fapping from **Der Trihs** and the rest? Yep, Monty he’s not worth your ire or your time. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/11 "2015-04-23T18:34:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Damnit. I screwed up the first link. [Here is the thread from last year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=716253). Either my mind is going or I post in too many threads. Or both. I didn’t remember that one till I read it again. Good times. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/12 "2015-04-23T19:02:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Come now, couldn’t he be both? No. A troll is someone who is dishonestly holding a position to get a rise out of people. By definition, they have a clue, since they know what they’re doing. A clueless idiot is, well, a clueless idiot. I’ll let David Hume explain the differences and similarities. > [@David Hume](#): > > DISPUTES with men, pertinaciously obstinate in their principles, are, of all others, the most irksome; except, perhaps, those with persons, entirely disingenuous, who really do not believe the opinions they defend, but engage in the controversy, from affectation, from a spirit of opposition, or from a desire of showing wit and ingenuity, superior to the rest of mankind. The same blind adherence to their own arguments is to be expected in both; the same contempt of their antagonists; and the same passionate vehemence, in inforcing sophistry and falsehood. And as reasoning is not the source, whence either disputant derives his tenets; it is in vain to expect, that any logic, which speaks not to the affections, will ever engage him to embrace sounder principles. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/13 "2015-04-23T20:07:06Z")
“But surely one day this will change!” perhaps thought David, tragically. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/14 "2015-04-23T20:09:50Z")
If I were pitting them, it would be for starting a lot of threads to which he never posts again. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/15 "2015-04-23T20:24:14Z")
I wish all people who post positions I disagree with were as clumsy as he is. He’s wonderfully easy to rebut, because he makes wonderfully simplistic boners. It’s the intelligent opposition that makes for tough sledding. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/16 "2015-04-23T21:18:48Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > You are a lying sack of shit. You were a jackass last year in [and your latest crock of shit is [url=[Have a hard time respecting the moderately religious - Great Debates - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=728379)]this thread](]this thread[/url) in which you pulled for the umpteenth time [a completely dishonest portrayal of another poster’s post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18310203&postcount=885). > > Not only you a liar, but you are a troll. I seem to recall you basically admitting such in the thread from last year. There is a thing here that is mildly irritating, perhaps an issue that could be taken up in ATMB. When you copy the post link from the post number, you get a link to a single post by itself. In this particular case (and others) it would be more helpful to be able to view it in the whole thread without being forced to click the thread link in the single-post view. FYI, if you change where the link says “…showpost.php?..” to “…showthread.php?..” (e.g., [like this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18310203&postcount=885)), it will make it a lot easier on all of us. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/17 "2015-04-23T21:26:07Z")
I’m far more annoyed by certain other aspects of his posting style!!! Other than that, the only difference between him and a lot of other anti-religious folks that have been on the boards is he’s sticking around and still posting, don’t you think??? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/18 "2015-04-23T21:32:49Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yep, Monty he’s not worth your ire or your time. You shut your hole. Don’t you dare try to take away this wonderful opportunity from me. Now what can I say to Robert163 that is worthy of his intellect and something that he will understand. Hmmmmmm, I know, Robert163 ur dumm. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/19 "2015-04-23T22:03:34Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There is a thing here that is mildly irritating, perhaps an issue that could be taken up in ATMB. When you copy the post link from the post number, you get a link to a single post by itself. In this particular case (and others) it would be more helpful to be able to view it in the whole thread without being forced to click the thread link in the single-post view. > > FYI, if you change where the link says “…showpost.php?..” to “…showthread.php?..” (e.g., [like this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=18310203&postcount=885)), it will make it a lot easier on all of us. You can also get the right URL by going ahead and opening the single-post link (in a new tab, preferably) and then coping the link from the “Thread:” link at the top. It always jumps right to the correct post. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353/20 "2015-04-23T22:36:56Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Damnit. I screwed up the first link. [Here is the thread from last year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=716253). Whoa, that’s like some hardcore stupid. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-for-robert163/718353.md?page=2)