# Message to "On your left" bicyclists (too mild for the Pit) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 5, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572 "2010-11-05T13:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/41 "2010-11-05T18:30:36Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Relevant local recent [death](http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/100410dnmetjogger.156702d91.html)- the jogger was wearing headphones, and abruptly U-turned. Directly into a bicyclist. Head met pavement. The end. Wow. That’s sad. I didn’t think someone could die from a collision. I had a collision when I was maybe five or six. I was running one way and a girl was riding the other way. I wasn;t very short but somehow my face slammed into her front tire. I lost a tooth over that. I’m not sure whose fault it was, but I take at least 50% of the responsibility. The girl felt terrible about it. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/42 "2010-11-05T18:52:37Z")
I was riding my bike on a path one day this summer and had a bit of an issue. I was staying to the right like a good cyclist, and passing on the left the few times I encountered pedestrians or other cyclists. There was no problem with this. A woman on rollerblades approached from the other direction, and she went to the right, as did I, and again, there was no problem. Later, I’d reached my turnaround point, and was riding hard to get home before dark. I caught up to this woman on rollerblades, and she had headphones on and was swishing back and forth, left to right, and primarily in the middle of the 10’ (?) wide path. As I got closer, she had wandered to the left, leaving me with the right side to pass. I approached, gave warning, and heard her ramble about passing on the left. Yes! That’s great! I will…so long as you aren’t dancing to music all across the path, in a zone to oneself. It would be so much easier if everyone just defaulted to the right side in the first place… ---
**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/43 "2010-11-05T21:13:51Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Relevant local recent [death](http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/100410dnmetjogger.156702d91.html)- the jogger was wearing headphones, and abruptly U-turned. Directly into a bicyclist. Head met pavement. The end. > > Minor RO: every article when this happened specified that the bicyclist would not face charges. Of fucking COURSE there won’t be charges! All he did was bicycle in a straight line, the heathen barbarian. She rammed directly into him. I read the article and saw that it was summed up as a tragedy, no more and no less. But the folks in the comments are going nuts about how fast the bicyclist was going and whether the cyclist was in control, saying that the accident was evidence enough that he was going too fast. Why do folks insist that the blame game is a zero-sum game, and all accidents must have 100% of the blame doled out to the guilty parties? Sometimes it is simply a tragic accident. ---
**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/44 "2010-11-05T21:22:14Z")
Well, **minor7** , to be fair, from everything I’ve heard, the blame is 100% squarely the dead girl’s. She was jogging; the bicyclist was on one side of her. She very abruptly decided “That’s it! That’s as far as I’m going!” and made a U-turn. Without glancing over her shoulder or anything. It doesn’t even matter if the bicyclist yelled out “On your left!” or “Incoming!” or anything, since she had headphones + music and wouldn’t have heard anyway. I’ve been on the trail in question, though (I think) not the exact spot of the accident. The trail actually passes directly behind my office - I frequently play hooky for ten minutes or so to get myself outside. ---
**Author:** ![Kalypso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/df705f/32.png) [@Kalypso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalypso)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/45 "2010-11-05T21:38:21Z")
I’m not sure if this affects anyone else, but when I’m walking and thinking the first thing I think of when someone calls out, “on your left” is “which way is left?” I usually just freeze and let the cyclist sort it out. I’d be happier with “Passing!” It would get the same reaction from me, but I’d be less momentarily confused. ---
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/46 "2010-11-05T22:01:41Z")
Another pedestrian-cyclist conflict that’s come up recently is bicyclists “walking” their dogs on multiuse trails. Nothing like getting caught up with a leash that’s strung all the way across the path, with a dog on one end and a bike on the other. A woman in San Jose died last year when she got tangled up and fell and hit her head. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2010, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/47 "2010-11-05T22:39:14Z")
> [@EmAnJ](#): > > Can I ask where in Calgary you are referring to? I’ve seen cyclists on the sidewalks in downtown Calgary, but not anywhere else. Everywhere else has pathways, but I’m in the NW, so maybe it’s different in other areas?\ We’re in north central Calgary - **Alice in Wonderland** has said that she hasn’t noticed this either, so I think it might be our type of neighbourhood - halfway between inner city and suburb - that attracts this kind of cyclist behaviour. I was paying attention this summer, and I think I saw about five bikes on the sidewalk for every cyclist I saw on the road around here. > [@EmAnJ](#): > > It’s a very wide bike and pedestrian path, and it can get very congested at certain times of the day. I agree that the limit is low (it should be 15 or 20km/hr), but I see the reasons behind it. Most people use the path for a short while then turn on to a road. Also, when it leaves downtown, the speed increases to 20 km/hr, though I don’t agree with that limit either (I think it’s too low considering the bike a walking pathways are entirely separate for a lot of it).\ I disagree that the speed limits should be increased; they’re low in the high-congestion areas for many reasons - multiple people walking, people walking dogs on long leashes, pedestrians crossing the paths to go onto other paths frequently, etc. The bike speeds in those areas (I assume you’re talking about downtown areas) really shouldn’t be above walking speeds because of all the potential problems. On dedicated bike paths, I can agree with somewhat higher speeds, but not on multi-use paths. > [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > Relevant local recent [death](http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/100410dnmetjogger.156702d91.html)- the jogger was wearing headphones, and abruptly U-turned. Directly into a bicyclist. Head met pavement. The end.\ There was a death here this summer where a pedestrian was killed by a roller-blader. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/48 "2010-11-06T04:23:40Z")
Why is a bicyclist on the sidewalk in the first place? You’d do better to rant that they’re not on the road as they should be. When I walked to classes in college, I non-seriously contemplated (meaning fantasized) about carrying a large walking stick and using it to trip up inconsiderate bicyclists, consequences be damned. Unrelated story about asshole bicyclists: One time I was on a bicycle, on a bicycle path, waiting to cross the road at a traffic crossing. Just sitting there stopped, looking both ways, waiting for traffic to clear. Another bicyclist came up from behind me and his front tire rammed into my leg! What the fuck, jizzbot!? Fuck you with a wine bottle!! ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/49 "2010-11-06T05:01:16Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > That’s not the message that I get, though. I often don’t know there’s a bike until I actually see one. Bikes are incredibly stealthy and quiet, especially when the ambient noise of cars is drowning them out. And I often don’t know if the person is speaking to me. It could be two people having a conversation, it could be someone on their cell, it could be a crazy person talking to themselves for all I know. > > So I get your important message quoted above, but strike out “on a bike” and “to me.” > > I think that a bell combined with a voice is the surest way of conveying the right message. I agree with all this: bells which sound unmistakeably like bike bells are the best way to say, “Look out! A bike is approaching!” Plus, a bicycle bell has a gay and joyful tune which brings fond nostalgia to a listener’s ear. Use it often! And, I know this is sort of a crazy idea but I’m going to just float this out there: [bike lamps](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/104-3796580-2511924?field-keywords=bike%20lamp&url=index%3Dblended). Every near-collision I’ve ever had with a biker - even the one that was almost my fault - involved dark streets and black clothes. Cyclists! If you want people to stay out of your way - you need to tell them where you’re at. Bike ninjas are the bane of civilized cycling. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/50 "2010-11-06T06:32:13Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Luckily he was already past me by the time I reacted. And there is the best answer. Just walk in a straight line and us cyclists will get past you just fine. No warning needed because 1) you can’t hear us; 2) you don’t understand what ‘on your left’ means; 3) you have your goddamned headphones on; or 4) , eh, this isn’t the pit. You walkers are so damn slow that we can pass 10 - 20 of you a minute. Even if 95% are as perfect as **tdn** , that means we still encounter an idiot every 5 minutes or so. Seriously, if you are on a multi use path, having a cyclist pass unannounced should not be a surprise. A few years ago the real ire was reserved for rollerbladers, who took up the entire path. Thankfully, no one rollerblades any more. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/51 "2010-11-06T09:10:59Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > And there is the best answer. Just walk in a straight line and us cyclists will get past you just fine. No warning needed because 1) you can’t hear us; 2) you don’t understand what ‘on your left’ means; 3) you have your goddamned headphones on; or 4) , eh, this isn’t the pit. The reason for the warnings is that walkers _are_ surprised and complained they wanted verbal warnings of an approaching bike. Surprised as in jump violently and scream and flail about in their shock. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/52 "2010-11-06T16:10:59Z")
I was driving around last night, and I counted three cyclists, and every one of them was on the sidewalk. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/53 "2010-11-07T03:59:37Z")
> [@Mops](#): > > What works for me, and for most other pedestrians here: hear a bicycle bell behind me - automatically make sure I am on the right side of the path. Why does it seem to be “on your left” in the US instead of ringing one’s bell? Well, for me it’s because every bike bell I’ve ever seen has colorful streamers and a picture of Mickey Mouse or My Little Pony on it 😛 > [@Chronos](#): > > And here, I thought that “on your left” was the standard vocal warning for a bicyclist passing a pedestrian. It shouldn’t matter if the pedestrian zones out the first two words, because it shouldn’t matter if they zone out all three. The important message is “there’s someone behind me on a bike saying something to me”, and from there, the pedestrian should be able to reach the appropriate conclusion on es own. It’s just like the bicycle bell (which not all bikes have, incidentally): You can’t distinguish any words at all from that, either, but it means the same thing. > > Fortunately, I live in a town where there are enough bicyclists that most people seem to get this. But I can certainly understand the frustration when they don’t. Yup, if you’re a pedestrian on a multi-use path, you should be aware that there are also bicycles there, and _expect_ them to be coming up behind you and passing you. Even if you don’t clearly understand the words, the simple sound of a loud voice behind you ought to be enough to make you think, “Oh, a bike”, and move to the right. Heck, if the non-English-speaking Mexicans I pass can understand this, why can’t the English-speaking Americans? > [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > A few years ago the real ire was reserved for rollerbladers, who took up the entire path. Thankfully, no one rollerblades any more. Rollerbladers … grrr! And they _always_ have headphones on! Also, because I live near a popular ski area, I get to deal with cross-country skiers who train during the offseason with these odd vehicle thingies that consist of two rails on wheels, joined together in a V shape, with an upright with handlebars at the front point. They put a foot on each rail, grab the handlebars, and propel the thing by rocking back and forth, which of course makes the thing slalom back and forth the full width of the trail… ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/54 "2010-11-07T04:01:51Z")
Been keeping an eye out since yesterday - the totals are now eight cyclists on the sidewalk, and two on the road. Both of the guys on the road were helmet-wearing, serious-looking cyclists. ---
**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/55 "2010-11-07T05:23:15Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Been keeping an eye out since yesterday - the totals are now eight cyclists on the sidewalk, and two on the road. Both of the guys on the road were helmet-wearing, serious-looking cyclists. Last Saturday, on a five mile drive to the grocery store through a major Canadian city, it was a full 100% on the sidewalk ,and I’m not even counting the guys who are towing all their possessions and/or dumpster diving booty.I had hope for the one dude who rode in the traffic lane through the park as required by law , but after he crossed out of the park he went on the sidewalk. These were ‘serious looking’ cyclists -specialty bike attire, bikes that look like they cost a weeks wage, yuppies in their 50’s, college kids, every age in between. And on my walk to work every day, they’re deking though wheelchairs, walkers and old farts towing IV poles in front of the hospital and pedestrian commuters like me. The proprietor of a fucking bike shop on my route to work, sidewalk riding up to the door and unlocking it at 830am. If actual cycling professionals won’t model appropriate behaviour, no wonder the dilettantes can’t figure it out. The city is spending millions of dollars on divided bike paths downtown, which just means that half the fuckwads using it just ride on the sidewalk until they get to it. Then when they turn off the divided path, it’s back on the sidewalk until they get to their office or bikeshop. And the city, for reasons I cannot fathom, are building these lanes flush to the sidewalk, just so it’s even easier for them to tip over onto us pedestrians. Sure, they get a physical barrier between them and cars, but us peds can apparently go get fucked. Or knocked over. And if they’re actually riding in the street like they’re suppose to, they don’t stop for pedestrians in crosswalks. Zipping around pedestrians crossing the street does not meet anyone’s definition of ‘yield’. Stop that shit. Now, before all you bikies get your spandex up your crack, sidewalk riding is not legal in my city, nor is riding in crosswalks, unless designated as shared (and the few shared bits are well signed and identified). No, not even if you’re just going a block. No, not if you aren’t a ‘real’ cyclist and have a pretty wicker basket on your handlebars to denote your recreational status. No, not even if the cars make you scared. Unless there’s signs saying it’s shared space, it’s not. I don’t care what your town’s laws are, in mine it’s a vehicle violation. Not that the city gives enough of a shit to enforce it, but still. Can you tell this is beyond a peeve for me? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/56 "2010-11-07T05:47:28Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > Well, for me it’s because every bike bell I’ve ever seen has colorful streamers and a picture of Mickey Mouse or My Little Pony on it 😛 Well, they make air horns for bicycles. That’s probably not going to win you a lot of friends either, though. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/57 "2010-11-07T11:44:40Z")
> [@Mops](#): > > What works for me, and for most other pedestrians here: hear a bicycle bell behind me - automatically make sure I am on the right side of the path. Why does it seem to be “on your left” in the US instead of ringing one’s bell? Because the vast majority of bicycles in the US do not have bells. By ‘vast majority’, I mean upwards of 99%. Personally, I avoid mixed use lanes when I cycle. There’s only a couple around here (which is two more than in most similar places in the US). One is along an arterial, but it’s separated from that by a raised curb. Motorists sometimes yell at me for not using it, but I have good reasons for not doing so. One is that because of the curb, streetsweepers do not clean it off, so it’s full of various debris. The other is that it’s sometimes inhabited by stationary and near-stationary objects such as garbage cans, pedestrians, and mountain bikes. When I ride along that particular road, I’m always on a serious ride where I want to go fast. I do not want to slow down or risk hitting someone. So I ride in the car lane and cars can go around me. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/58 "2010-11-07T18:14:19Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > \ > And if they’re actually riding in the street like they’re suppose to, they don’t stop for pedestrians in crosswalks. Zipping around pedestrians crossing the street does not meet anyone’s definition of ‘yield’. Stop that shit. \ > Can you tell this is beyond a peeve for me? 😃 You and me both. Being a cyclist here is an excuse to do whatever you want, on the road and on the sidewalk. The biggest problem I have with this is that cyclists don’t seem to understand some of the risks they’re taking - a cyclist cycling across a crosswalk isn’t giving cars a chance to stop for them because they come out far too fast. I don’t want to hit a cyclist with my car. ---
**Author:** ![Archergal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Archergal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Archergal)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/59 "2010-11-07T20:02:27Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > On multi-use paths, maybe pedestrians should be facing facing traffic just as on the road. Huh, maybe that explains why a LOT of the pedestrians I meet on multi-use paths tend to go to the far right of the path, rather than staying on their side. I never thought of that. I don’t currently have a bell on my bike, but when I come up BEHIND someone on a path, I slow way down until I’m past them. I’ll usually cough (not a difficult stretch for me) or something too, but if they’ve got headphones on, they won’t hear me. So I just assume that they are going to wobble in front of me and proceed accordingly. Of course, I ride really slowly anyway, so slowing down isn’t a big deal for me. We don’t have many multi-use paths, so I don’t worry about it much. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572/60 "2010-11-07T20:15:04Z")
I won’t ride anywhere _but_ the local recreational trail any more. My city’s street system was designed when the town was _much_ smaller than it is now, and growth in the last 20+ years has really overloaded the system. And, unfortunately, improvements are limited by the geography. The city is in a valley, stuck between the Columbia River on the East edge and rugged hills on the West edge, so the only room for expansion is to the North and South, and that just means making the existing roads _longer_, not adding more streets to reroute traffic onto to reduce congestion. Even residential areas aren’t safe. I live in one of the town’s original residential areas (the house I live in is about 100 years old), and these residential streets were built when your typical household had _one_ car, if they had any at all. Now, with almost every family owning at least 2 cars, plus a lot of these big old houses getting divided up into apartments, you’re looking a 2, 3, even 4 cars per house, all parked on the street. My street is lined with cars on both sides, which doesn’t even leave enough room for two cars to pass each other going opposite directions. Most of the residential streets in my area are the same way. I simply don’t feel safe riding on the street any more, and I won’t ride on the sidewalk, so it’s pretty much the recreational trail or nothing for me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/message-to-on-your-left-bicyclists-too-mild-for-the-pit/559572.md?page=4)