Mswas and Rubysteak sounds like you two need some time apart. Divorce $299 special rate! I care about your self worth and will get you everything that’s his / hers which you obviously deserve!
I never attacked you personally, just your opinion. You’re the one who made it personal.
There is no straw man. You like to use that phrase, but you don’t know what it means. The law says that he deserves that lavish lifestyle if it’s the one he would have had if his parents were together. It’s not a matter of if an infant “enjoys” the Maybach more. It’s not a matter of if Kelis “deserves” to accompany him in the Maybach. You think those things are relevant, fine. I personally don’t care. I was simply trying to give the OP some idea of why she got so much money. You’re free to disagree, but try to disagree with it on some other basis than, “Kelis is going to spend the money on spas.”
I sent you a PM to ask you to stop the ad hominem attacks. If telling you to go play with your daughter, as you referenced her in this thread, in your own words, as being “annoying as fuck” is harassment, then you are thin skinned indeed, and you said far worse about her than I did. Please, go play with her, and step away from the keyboard.
Markxxx Insightful analysis of that. It makes a lot of sense.
In this case it galls me because Kelis would be wealthy in her own right and not just because she’s married to Nas, she’s a successful big name recording artist.
What you say would make sense if the law assumes that the Mother is going to stay at home and not make money of her own, but even if Nas paid no child support at all, that child would still be rich. That sort of thing should be taken into account IMO.
Bzzzt wrong.
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There is no straw man. You like to use that phrase, but you don’t know what it means. The law says that he deserves that lavish lifestyle if it’s the one he would have had if his parents were together. It’s not a matter of if an infant “enjoys” the Maybach more. It’s not a matter of if Kelis “deserves” to accompany him in the Maybach. You think those things are relevant, fine. I personally don’t care. I was simply trying to give the OP some idea of why she got so much money. You’re free to disagree, but try to disagree with it on some other basis than, “Kelis is going to spend the money on spas.”
A straw man argument is where you claim the person said something they didn’t and then argue against it. Your claim that I don’t know the law is irrelevant because I never argued that the law is anything other than what you claimed it to be. I went with what YOU said the law was and disagreed with it. So you pimping your knowledge of the law is a straw man because I never disagreed with anything you said about the law.
Whose name would the Maybach be in I wonder?
You told me to go play with my daughter? Is that all you said? You make it sound so sweet. I vented that my daughter was annoying, why you found that relevant. I never called her, ‘bratty’, which was the adjective you neglected to mention. Yo udidn’t say ‘Go play with your daughter.’, you said, “Go play with your bratty daughter.”
But there is a Pit thread about you as you requested. Why don’t you go there. It’s all about YOU as you like it to be.
I was always told to never trust a lawyer who advertises.
Rubystreak when I posted the OP, I failed to notice spousal support. Looking at other websites Nas is doing OK.* What threw me off is that Kelis has(had?) a career. She’ll have to tone that down with a baby to care of though.
Oh and the actual divorce is not amicable
*Recently signed $11 million recording contract. Assorted rapper accoutrements(5 houses, cars, etc.)
I’m surprised she got spousal support too. I don’t know the facts of the case, like why she’s getting that money, but a lot of women can and do work in the music industry after they have kids. Yeah, Nas is doing well. That’s why she got such a big settlement. I guess I don’t feel qualified to say if she “deserves” the money, because like I said, it’s supposed to be for the kid to enjoy his father’s lifestyle. That was the sole basis of my argument. It’s really easy to attack the mother and paint her as a gold digger, but objectively speaking, she’s only getting what the court says she’s entitled to get on behalf of the baby.
mswas, your personal attacks on other posters are out of line, here and your “masturbation” comment is in direct violation of the posted rules for this forum.
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If $55,000 a month represents the percentage of Nas’s income that should be paid under the formula for spousal and child support used by the courts in his jurisdiction, then it’s not outrageous.
Kelis had a baby three days ago. She should be working on breastfeeding and bonding with her child, not laying down tasty beats. This should be the case for the duration of the summer, at the very least.
This is only different from regular people divorces in that the sums of money are larger and the shysters representing the two parties charge more.
Just because the law says it’s so, doesn’t mean it isn’t outrageous. The law is a blunt instrument, and occasionally calls for outrageous decisions, based on the fact that it isn’t designed to be perfect in every possible circumstance.
It works pretty well when you’re trying to make sure the kids have food, clothes, and a safe home. It starts to get really weird when that’s already taken care of (with money to spare) and the “child support” can only be used to upgrade things to the heights of luxury. It’s also impossible to improve the child’s standard of living without improving the SoL of the caregiver. When that improvement is an upgrade to a decent apartment, nobody complains, when the improvement is getting an extra summer home, you start to wonder who is REALLY the primary beneficiary.
If the parents were still together, then the kid would have three summer homes. So the parents split up, the custodial parent should only get enough money to make sure the kid has a split level ranch in the Toledo suburbs?
How do you know? Maybe less than $ 55k per year would be spent on the kid if they stayed together.
A child is entitled to an adequate sum for its support and nurture. Generally that is a share of the non-custodial parent’s income, but I’m under the impression that the percentage concept is a guideline in setting equitable support, not a legal mandate that the child is ipso facto entitled to that percentage.
Note too that while the money paid in support is in general to be expended in manners directly related to the child (clothes, furniture for the kid’s room, toys, bicycle, etc.), or saved in a dedicated account for the child’s future, there is a proportion of it that may be expended for the household the child occupies. (E.g., it takes more money to buy groceries for a woman and two children than for a woman alone, and that difference is a legitimate expenditure; the difference in rent between a one- and a two-bedroom apartment is a legitimate expenditure; hiring a babysitter to permit the woman to work or to enjoy occasional evenings out is a legitimate expenditure.)
None of which has anything to do with the $55,000 support payment discussed here – but I felt that discussion of the basic principles would help the discussion.
No, the parents have three summer homes, and the kid is allowed to use them when the parents decide to let him use them. If the parents are apart, and the non-custodial parent owns 3 summer homes, I’m assuming the kid can still use them if the NCP allows him to.
Why not? If the kid has a safe home, nutritious food, appropriate clothing, and proper health care, I’m not really seeing what the problem is.
I’m not shedding tears for any child merely because his mom’s driving him around in a Honda instead of a Beemer, and they vacation on the Jersey Shore instead of the French Riviera.