# Methodists Avoid Scism; Condemn Homosexuals **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 5, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680 "2004-05-05T18:24:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680/121 "2004-05-12T17:13:27Z")
> [@racinchikki](#): > > It’s like fighting ignorance, Kalhoun. It’s always easier to give up and leave, and harder to stay and try to change things. I say weaken the bastards. The good will reconvene…under a different name, but with renewed resolve to keep the poisonous ones out. You can fight ignorance without being part of the problem. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680/122 "2004-05-12T17:23:00Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > Run this by me again… > > Which religion says that homosexuals are equal to hets in every way in the eyes of god and christ? May not be much help for you, but the United Church of Canada, this country’s largest Protestant denomination, has actively campaigned in favour of same-sex marriage, and has ordained gay ministers and performed commitment ceremonies for some time now. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680/123 "2004-05-12T17:52:29Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > May not be much help for you, but the United Church of Canada, this country’s largest Protestant denomination, has actively campaigned in favour of same-sex marriage, and has ordained gay ministers and performed commitment ceremonies for some time now. Well, you Northerners have had it over us in some departments for quite some time now. This does not surprise me. Maybe you can slip something in the water and let it flow down to the lower 48! ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680/124 "2004-05-12T17:55:52Z")
I’ve quoted it before and I’ll do say again, “That religion which regards the recognition of human dignity as a sin is not a religion but a disease.” ---
**Author:** ![spectrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc29f/32.png) [@spectrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spectrum)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680/125 "2004-05-12T18:04:03Z")
Is that an original quote, gobear, or something from another source? ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680/126 "2004-05-12T18:15:30Z")
> [@spectrum](#): > > Is that an original quote, gobear, or something from another source? It’s a quote from Dr. Babasaheb [Ambedkar](http://www.ambedkar.org/) (1891-1956), an Indian economist who converted from Hinduism to Buddhism and became a crusader for Dalit (AKA the untouchables) equality. Another quote: > [@](#): > > So long as you do not achieve social liberty, whatever freedom is provided by the law is of no avail to you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/methodists-avoid-scism-condemn-homosexuals/243680.md?page=6)