# \#MeToo backlash is hurting women (Bloomberg article) **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 5, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626 "2018-12-05T19:09:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/421 "2018-12-15T12:44:08Z")
> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#): > > Does the current social climate in the US with the force of the #metoo movement behind it make it easier to make false accusations against men that will be believed by the masses? When I say easier, I don’t mean in a legal sense, although that may be part and parcel of it. I mean is it easier to ruin a man’s life via social media these days before he even has his day in court? Maybe. But that is more than balanced by the greater increase in a woman’s chance to have a legitimate complaint investigated. Before I get my panties in as knot I would need the details of the cases of unfairly maligned men instead of the hysterical hypothetical cases being presented. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/422 "2018-12-15T20:52:03Z")
> [@Royal\_Nonesutch](#): > > …the intellectual titans here on the good ol’ Straight Dope Message Board (“…the smartest, hippest people on the planet!”) who grandly assure the world that false allegations are virtually non-existant and guilty until proven innocent should be societies default position when it comes to women claiming harassment or assault. [Maybe that should be the case in Minnesota](http://www.startribune.com/when-rape-is-reported-in-minnesota-and-nothing-happens-denied-justice-special-report-part-one/487130861/). > [@](#): > > A Star Tribune review of more than 1,000 sexual assault cases, filed around the state in a recent two-year period, reveals chronic errors and investigative failings by Minnesota’s largest law enforcement agencies, including those in Minneapolis and St. Paul. > > In almost a quarter of the cases, records show, police never assigned an investigator. > > In about one-third of them, the investigator never interviewed the victim. > > In half the cases, police failed to interview potential witnesses. > > Most of the cases — about 75 percent, including violent rapes by strangers — were never forwarded to prosecutors for criminal charges. Overall, fewer than one in 10 reported sexual assaults produced a conviction, records show. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/423 "2018-12-15T21:06:28Z")
Yeah, we have _serious_ systemic problems in our legal system, particularly with regards to sexual assault and rape. False accusations really aren’t among them. ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_Elliot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jane_elliot/32/6166_2.png) [@Jane\_Elliot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/424 "2018-12-15T23:04:41Z")
What I’m hearing is that false accusations are a horrible, life-altering, devastating occurrence that happens more than we know. Sexual harassment, rape, assault, meh, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/425 "2018-12-16T15:48:39Z")
> [@clairobscur](#): > > That would be an appropriate answer if I had chastised you for stating that you were always believing women in all circumstances, which I didn’t. Then what are you going on about with your false dichotomy that you can only either believe men or women? > [@](#): > > On the other hand, you didn’t answer to what I actually said, which is : can you explain to me again how you can at the same time believe the woman and not disbelieve the man? Because after repeating that one must believe women, you insisted that you could somehow do one and not do the other. It must be great to be able to believe at the same time “He groped me” and “I didn’t grope her”, but I’m unable to achieve this feat, personally. Yes, it is called being capable of critical thinking and evaluation of evidence. Your argument that you should never believe women does not allow for any critical thinking or evaluation of evidence, but instead, starts from the position that the woman is a liar out to harm a perfectly innocent man. > [@](#): > > Can you clarify exactly what you mean by “believe women”? Others on your side at least are logically consistent when they say things like “I’ll believe women because false accusations are so incredibly rare that it’s more likely that I’ll be struck by a meteorite. So I won’t believe the man’s denial.” Certainly not to the satisfaction of someone who will take words out of context and do their best to deliberately misunderstand them in order to create a false narrative to rail against. To believe a woman is to give her story a fair shake, to accept it as a potentially credible allegation, and to follow up and determine the validity of it based on the evidence presented, as well as patterns of behavior of the people involved. To not believe women is to consider any accusations that they make to be lies to stir up trouble. > [@clairobscur](#): > > And who said I’m terrified of anything? I’m not terrified, I’m opposing ideas like "“women should be believed” See, this is a problem, you oppose believing women. You would call a woman a liar to her face if she came to you with a concern about a co-worker or superior who is harassing her, and accuse her of just making up stories to hurt someone. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/426 "2018-12-16T16:31:40Z")
> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#): > > I mean is it easier to ruin a man’s life via social media these days before he even has his day in court? The matter of online-community shaming culture has been an issue for years, is independent of the current version of the “me too” phenomenon, and entirely genger-neutral. Heck, the archetypal example of the [Justine Sacco incident](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10534561/Justine-Sacco-fired-after-Hope-I-dont-get-Aids-tweet.html) dates back to 2013. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/427 "2018-12-19T23:51:05Z")
Eliza Dushku: I worked at CBS. I didn’t want to be sexually harassed. I was fired [https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/eliza-dushku-i-worked-at-cbs-i-didn’t-want-to-be-sexually-harassed-i-was-fired/ar-BBRbG9t?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/eliza-dushku-i-worked-at-cbs-i-didn%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-sexually-harassed-i-was-fired/ar-BBRbG9t?li=BBnb7Kz) Wow. No way to read about this behavior and not think ‘That is FUCKED up.’ > [@](#): > > This is not a “he-said/she-said” case. Weatherly’s behavior was captured on CBS’s own videotape recordings. And CBS paid 9.5 million to settle the claim. > [@](#): > > Weatherly harassed me from early on. The tapes show his offer to take me to his “rape van, filled with all sorts of lubricants and long phallic things.” There was also his constant name-calling; playing provocative songs (like “Barracuda”) on his iPhone when I approached my set marks; and his remark about having a threesome. He made the threesome remark to me about himself and me in a room full of people. Minutes later, a crew member sidled up next to me and, with a smirk, said in a low voice, “I’m with Bull. I wanna have a threesome with you too.” For weeks, Weatherly was recorded making sexual comments, and was recorded mimicking penis jousting with a male costar, this directly on the heels of the “threesome” proposal, and another time referring to me repeatedly as “legs.” He regularly commented on my “ravishing” beauty, following up with audible groans, oohing and aahing. As the tapes show, he liked to boast about his sperm and vasectomy reversals (“I want you to know, Eliza, I have powerful swimmers ”). Weatherly had a habit of exaggerated eye-balling and leering at me; once, he leaned into my body and inhaled, smelling me in a dramatic swoon. As was caught on tape, after I flubbed a line, he shouted in my face, “I will take you over my knee and spank you like a little girl.” She was fired, he still has a job. And this was all caught on tape. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/428 "2018-12-19T23:55:37Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Eliza Dushku: I worked at CBS. I didn’t want to be sexually harassed. I was fired > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/eliza-dushku-i-worked-at-cbs-i-didn%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-sexually-harassed-i-was-fired/ar-BBRbG9t?li=BBnb7Kz) > > Wow. No way to read about this behavior and not think ‘That is FUCKED up.’ > > And CBS paid 9.5 million to settle the claim. > > She was fired, he still has a job. And this was all caught on tape. The industry needs a stand down. The executives still don’t get it. There needs to be serious Congressional investigations. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/429 "2018-12-20T00:29:46Z")
I think it would be more than silly to think that Weatherly just started acting like this. He has probably treated a lot of women like this. Dushku was just the only one we know of who complained. > [@](#): > > I learned from crew members that, because there had been previous harassment training on “Bull,” Weatherly’s delight in yelling “yellow card” was his way of mocking the very harassment training that was meant to keep him in line. > [@](#): > > Weatherly responded with, “Eliza, no one respects women more than I do,” citing his many sisters and his professed history of being “too respectful of women.” ‘Too respectful of women’? And he is caught ON TAPE THAT LOTS OF CBS EXECUTIVES HAVE SEEN doing this shit. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2018, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/430 "2018-12-24T02:18:42Z")
But it’s her fault for being so beautiful, and posting a picture on Instagram that shows her wearing a bathing suit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/431 "2019-01-02T11:27:56Z")
I’m not sufficiently familiar with “Barracuda” to understand why it’s “provocative” but the rest of that story sounds horrific. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/432 "2019-01-02T22:51:16Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m not sufficiently familiar with “Barracuda” to understand why it’s “provocative” but the rest of that story sounds horrific. I’m familiar with the song but never knew it’s [meaning](http://ultimateclassicrock.com/heart-ann-wilson-barracuda-sex-abuse/) either. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/433 "2019-01-03T04:33:47Z")
Here is my problem with the argument that false allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment are “rare”: These things occur in private situations. Unless someone is stupid enough to call a female co-worker sugar tits in front of others or he rapes a woman on stage, the encounter is generally one done where only the two parties are present. As these allegations typically do not come forward immediately, no rape kit or DNA testing is done. It is almost always a “he said/she said” proposition. No methodology that pretends to be scientific can put these cases into true/false categories. The only time the stats count these allegations as false is when a woman makes a verifiably false statement as to a surrounding detail, and even then, those on the #metoo side simply chalk that up to the trauma of her experience. The woman has to be on the Crystal Magnum scale of lying/crazy before the possibility of falsehood arises, and even then the DA was still pushing for prison for those innocent players. I don’t have a solution for this, but the status quo “always believe the victim” (and yes, calling her a victim before the evidence comes in) is not fair to the accused. Just because this is the political cause of the day does not mean that fairness should go out the window. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/434 "2019-01-03T10:33:19Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Here is my problem with the argument that false allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment are “rare”: > > These things occur in private situations. Unless someone is stupid enough to call a female co-worker sugar tits in front of others or he rapes a woman on stage, the encounter is generally one done where only the two parties are present. As these allegations typically do not come forward immediately, no rape kit or DNA testing is done. > > It is almost always a “he said/she said” proposition. No methodology that pretends to be scientific can put these cases into true/false categories. > > The only time the stats count these allegations as false is when a woman makes a verifiably false statement as to a surrounding detail, and even then, those on the #metoo side simply chalk that up to the trauma of her experience. The woman has to be on the Crystal Magnum scale of lying/crazy before the possibility of falsehood arises, and even then the DA was still pushing for prison for those innocent players. > > I don’t have a solution for this, but the status quo “always believe the victim” (and yes, calling her a victim before the evidence comes in) is not fair to the accused. Just because this is the political cause of the day does not mean that fairness should go out the window. “Always believe the victim” isn’t the status quo. Hell, “take every allegation seriously” isn’t even the status quo. We’ve made some progress towards the latter, which should be the goal, but society still generally treats accusers like shit, and accused powerful men with far more sympathy than their accusers. Credible sexual assault allegations are still not barriers to powerful positions like president or SCOTUS justice. We have a long, long way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/435 "2019-01-03T10:54:03Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Here is my problem with the argument that false allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment are “rare”: > > These things occur in private situations. Unless someone is stupid enough to call a female co-worker sugar tits in front of others or he rapes a woman on stage, the encounter is generally one done where only the two parties are present. As these allegations typically do not come forward immediately, no rape kit or DNA testing is done. > > It is almost always a “he said/she said” proposition. No methodology that pretends to be scientific can put these cases into true/false categories. > > The only time the stats count these allegations as false is when a woman makes a verifiably false statement as to a surrounding detail, and even then, those on the #metoo side simply chalk that up to the trauma of her experience. The woman has to be on the Crystal Magnum scale of lying/crazy before the possibility of falsehood arises, and even then the DA was still pushing for prison for those innocent players. > > I don’t have a solution for this, but the status quo “always believe the victim” (and yes, calling her a victim before the evidence comes in) is not fair to the accused. Just because this is the political cause of the day does not mean that fairness should go out the window. That same argument applies to the assertion that false allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment _aren’t_ rare. And the preponderance of actual evidence is that rape has been and continues to be underreported, and even when reported is investigated at quite a low rate. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/436 "2019-01-03T16:42:26Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > “Always believe the victim” isn’t the status quo. Hell, “take every allegation seriously” isn’t even the status quo. We’ve made some progress towards the latter, which should be the goal, but society still generally treats accusers like shit, and accused powerful men with far more sympathy than their accusers. Credible sexual assault allegations are still not barriers to powerful positions like president or SCOTUS justice. We have a long, long way to go. I don’t want to rehash the Kavanaugh thing, but it seems like your definition of credible means “not inherently incredible.” From my limited experience, I disagree with your contention that nobody takes these things seriously. I have three clients that I am representing on post-conviction relief that are doing effective life sentences for sexual assault with not one shred of corroboration, only the word of the alleged victim. Now maybe they are all guilty, or maybe they were railroaded. Unless God comes down and tells us what happened, I don’t believe we can ever know. > [@Gyrate](#): > > That same argument applies to the assertion that false allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment _aren’t_ rare. And the preponderance of actual evidence is that rape has been and continues to be underreported, and even when reported is investigated at quite a low rate. I agree. I have no position on how rare or not rare false allegations are. My contention is that it is simply unknowable. It is not a good thing to base a justice system on who can tell the best story and who comes across as more believable. Sometimes that leads to the truth, and sometimes that lets the best liar win. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/437 "2019-01-03T17:09:12Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I don’t want to rehash the Kavanaugh thing, but it seems like your definition of credible means “not inherently incredible.” From my limited experience, I disagree with your contention that nobody takes these things seriously. I have three clients that I am representing on post-conviction relief that are doing effective life sentences for sexual assault with not one shred of corroboration, only the word of the alleged victim. Now maybe they are all guilty, or maybe they were railroaded. Unless God comes down and tells us what happened, I don’t believe we can ever know. I never said _nobody_ takes these things seriously. I’m speaking of society as a whole – we’re not yet taking sexual assault and related allegations nearly as seriously as we should. Insults and dismissals of accusers are still commonplace and largely accepted, if less acceptable than in the past. Excuses and rationalizations for abuse and abusers are also still commonplace and widely accepted, if less acceptable than in the past. We’re still far from being a just and decent society with regards to sexual assault and related issues. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/438 "2019-01-03T17:10:34Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > I don’t want to rehash the Kavanaugh thing, but it seems like your definition of credible means “not inherently incredible.” From my limited experience, I disagree with your contention that nobody takes these things seriously. I have three clients that I am representing on post-conviction relief that are doing effective life sentences for sexual assault with not one shred of corroboration, only the word of the alleged victim. Now maybe they are all guilty, or maybe they were railroaded. Unless God comes down and tells us what happened, I don’t believe we can ever know. > > I agree. I have no position on how rare or not rare false allegations are. My contention is that it is simply unknowable. It is not a good thing to base a justice system on who can tell the best story and who comes across as more believable. Sometimes that leads to the truth, and sometimes that lets the best liar win. However, one has to consider the benefit/cost ratio to lying. The benefit to a person saying he didn’t commit rape when he did is obvious and the cost minimal - he’s already accused, and if caught lying he goes to jail. But the benefit to a person saying they were raped when they weren’t is much smaller and the cost much higher even if undiscovered, as many actual rape victims have learned. Ford was - and continues to be - the subject of a national smear campaign and the target of death threats for coming forward with her allegations. What benefit was there for her to do so that outweighed those costs? That doesn’t mean false allegations never happen - clearly they do - but they are usually heavily disincentivised even if the lie is never discovered, and obviously can result in jail time if the lie is revealed. While individual cases differ widely, broadly speaking there is not an equal probability of each of the two sides lying. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/439 "2019-01-04T02:08:55Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > However, one has to consider the benefit/cost ratio to lying. The benefit to a person saying he didn’t commit rape when he did is obvious and the cost minimal - he’s already accused, and if caught lying he goes to jail. But the benefit to a person saying they were raped when they weren’t is much smaller and the cost much higher even if undiscovered, as many actual rape victims have learned. Ford was - and continues to be - the subject of a national smear campaign and the target of death threats for coming forward with her allegations. What benefit was there for her to do so that outweighed those costs? Lying about a rape doesn’t make sense, but there are lots of things that don’t make sense and still happen all the time. The benefit/cost ratio of committing rape is also pretty damn bad. I can’t even fathom how anyone could enjoy it, and the risks are obvious, but there are clearly some men who see those options and choose to commit the rape. If everyone was rational, there wouldn’t be any false rape allegations, and there wouldn’t be any rapes, either. But if we accept that there are some men twisted and irrational enough to commit rape, is it unreasonable to think there are some women irrational enough to make a false allegation? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626/440 "2019-01-04T02:33:14Z")
I don’t think anyone anywhere denies the existence of false accusations. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/metoo-backlash-is-hurting-women-bloomberg-article/825626.md?page=23)