# Mexicans control your damn kids while in public!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 18, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209 "2009-06-18T19:19:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Missy2U](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3bc359/32.png) [@Missy2U](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Missy2U)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/81 "2009-06-18T22:36:12Z")

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> [@Valgard](#):
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> I’m Jewish and this week I’m just in charge of world zinc prices. Maybe next week I’ll be able to do something about those dang kids, remind me.

Dude - if you could - could you bring up the price a bit? We have a couple five gallon buckets in the garage of that shit that we were going to take in with our copper and our aluminum for recycling and want to get the most bang for our buck out of it. I hear copper prices are on the rise - what can you do for zinc?

And if you ARE in charge of copper and aluminum or have any influence on the group that does, we’d appreciate a little help there too. We drink a LOT of beer, so our retirement fund is growing as aluminum goes up on a per pound basis.

But yeah, if you could up the per pound price on zinc, that’d be way cool! I’ll have the husband (he isn’t mexican or anything - he’s just old and has a ponytail) load up the van.

Thanks!

I see that even though I haven’t been spending a lot of time here lately there are still plenty of tools around posting, huh?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/82 "2009-06-18T22:36:38Z")

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> [@jackofsevens](#):
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> . . .stick their hands in a serving bowl full of lemon wedges . . .

Silly Texan, he can’t tell a serving bowl from a finger bowl.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/83 "2009-06-18T22:40:47Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](#):
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> Wrong.
> 
> All of you.
> 
> It’s “them Jews”.
> 
> It’s them Jews that’s doin’ it.

Wrong again. It’s “Da Jooz”.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/84 "2009-06-18T22:42:54Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> I don’t want to sound racist or anything, but all goddamn niggers should goddamn hang.

Hey, jungle bunny. Thank God for the sickle cell, huh?

CMC fnord!  
Assuming you are trying to quote ‘Animal Mother’ in _Full Metal Jacket_ of course (and if you are ya got the line wrong it’s “[All fucking](http://corky.net/scripts/FullMetalJacket.html) [niggers must](http://sfy.ru/sfy.html?script=full_metal_jacket) [fucking hang.](http://www.imsdb.com/scripts/Full-Metal-Jacket.html)”).

RE The OP: I’m sure Mexicans, and their children, know that Texas has both a capital and a capitol in it and also know how to punctuate a sentence, or at least fake it with a decent spell-checker. Moran!

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/85 "2009-06-18T22:48:31Z")

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[Olde Tyme Negro Accent]

Dem Jews, dem Jems, dem dry Jews  
Dem Jews, dem Jems, dem dry Jews  
Da Doc Jew’s connected to da Comic Jew  
Da Comic Jew’s connected to da Lawyer Jew  
Da Lawyer Jew’s connect to da Cowboy Jew  
Da Cowboy’s connected to da Finance Jew  
Finance Jew’s connected to da Senate Jew

Now hear da word of da Lord!

[/OTNA]

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/86 "2009-06-18T22:55:13Z")

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If I were to give a sincere response to the OP (and I know I’ll get shit for it, but hey, I’m bored at work so I’ll give it a whirl), I’d suggest that maybe the real issue at hand here is cultural differences. “No shit,” you say. I know, hear me out, goddamnit.

Being from California, my Italian-but-pretty-much-white self has vastly more Mexican friends than white, black, or Vulcan. The one thing I’ve noticed is that my more traditional Mexican friends (usually the ones who are the first generation born here in the US, grew up speaking only Spanish, super Catholic, etc.) tend to be _fiercely_ defensive of their children in ways I’ve never seen any of my white friends be. It’s an interesting dichotomy because - as someone mentioned above- my Mexican friends are also quicker to punish their kids in a much more passionate/fierce/whatever you want to call it than my other friends.

What I mean is: I see my Mexican friends are quick to punish their kid pretty fiercely if the kid is doing something they personally deem as inappropriate, but if anyone else were to ever say a word to the kid- whether the kid is doing something wrong or not- my friends would go nuts on the other person. And this is where the cultural difference comes in. We’ve all discussed this and while my Mexican friends all hold out that no one is to ever correct their child but themselves, my white friends say they are happy when they are reinforced by people in public- whether it’s an old lady in the grocery store giving a stern look to the little one or a nice man telling the child not to run into the street.

I notice my white friends tend to expect children to be super quiet and in line while in public- hands behind the back in stores, only speaking when spoken to, etc. And, of course, this is inline both with my upbringing and how I prefer kids to behave when in public (and how I’d try to get mine to behave, of course). The vast majority of my Mexican friends regularly comment that the above is absolutely insane to them: kids should laugh, play, cry, and be kids no matter where they are.

Even the birthday parties my friends throw for their kids are totally different: my Mexican friends will have giant, music-filled, LOUD LOUD LOUD, screaming crazy parties for their kids where guests of all ages are running around, dancing, screeching, and having fun. Hell, all of my Mexican friends let anyone at the park come join their party- something our white friends always are amazed by. My white friends tend to have more ordered affairs: everyone has a seat, blah blah blah. I think it’s just a difference in cultural traditions, that’s all- one that extends into all avenues of life.

I’m not saying one way is in any way better than the other and I also realize I’m making generalizations based entirely on my own experiences. Maybe I’m racist (but all my friends are Mexican!!! :D), but hey, I guess this sticks out to me because my friends and I have all talked about this a few times and I always thought it was an interesting convo. I guess this just makes me wonder if THIS is a little closer to the reasoning behind the OP’s clear selection bias-- it’s just a culture totally foreign to his, so it sticks out.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/87 "2009-06-18T22:55:35Z")

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> [@jackofsevens](#):
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> I’m not a troll. This is a serious rant.
> 
> Maybe I should have been more PC and said “I hate it when “ANY” Parent doesn’t control their kids”. But today my lunch was ruined by kids (who by the way where Mexican) and their parents. And, it reminded me of other similar insistences.
> 
> I don’t believe that all Mexicans are this way. But “PC” or not, in my observations of disruptive kids, Mexican parents are the worst at controlling them.

Plural + Anecdote != Data

[sub]dumbass[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/88 "2009-06-18T22:56:07Z")

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> [@jackofsevens](#):
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> Ok this my first post after lurking for a long time.
> 
> I don’t mean to sound racist, but why cant Mexicans control their fucking kids in public?

i don’t mean to sound judgmental, but you definitely sound like a racist.

> [@](#):
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> I’m eating lunch today, in walks a Mexican couple with a baby and 2 toddlers somewhere between 2 to 4 years old. The second they walk through the door the toddlers run straight over to where you get iced tea and stick their hands in a serving bowl full of lemon wedges. In full view of the parents. What did the parents do? NOT A FUCKING THING! Those kids repeated this FOUR times. There were lemons all over the mother fucking place!

Welcome to planet Earth. There is no particular race, creed or color of person on the planet that does not have have children that do this and parents who let them.

> [@](#):
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> So they finally set down at a table, which of course is directly behind me. The parents make the kids sit down to eat. Guess what the kids do. Yep you guessed it, THEY START SCREAMING THEIR FUCKING HEADS OFF.

Yep…it happens no matter if the kid and parents are white, black, latino, asian, or whatever. The fact that you made a point to say “I don’t mean to sound racist” kinda makes me think you have a problem with mexicans…moreso than the parentrs of these children may be lousy parents.

> [@](#):
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> Other times I seen Mexican parents let there kids run all over the place. The kids literally disappear, and the parents do nothing. They don’t look around to at least try and see them.

Are you seriously saying only mexicans do this? Seriously?

> [@](#):
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> I’ve seen Mexican kids throw food all over the place in full view of the “parents” and the parents don’t do a damn thing! WTF!

Hell, just come out and say it. You don’t like mexicans…or probably anyone that ain’t like you. Not saying the people you describe are right, but you have a lot of pent up mexi-hate don’t you?

> [@](#):
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> One time I saw a Mexican kid throw food on the floor. He then gets out of his little booster seat, reaches down, picks up, and starts EATING FUCKING FOOD OFF THE FLOOR. The parents are sitting RIGHT THERE. YOUR KID JUST EAT FOOD OFF OF A PUBLIC RESTAURANTS FLOOR!! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?

Damn it, just admit you’re racist, at least.

> [@](#):
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> No, I’m not Mexican and yes I have kids and they do not behave like that at home or in public.

I think we all got that part from the first sentence.

> [@](#):
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> Do Mexicans not care about their kids? Do they have a lot kids so they can afford to lose a few?

Your OP is laughable.

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**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/89 "2009-06-18T22:58:25Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> But that is racist. “Dover” is about as white/Anglo-Saxon a name as you can get - why are they trying to exclude minorities? And if you don’t believe me, just take a trip to Delaware some time.

I’m from Delaware, and well…shit, I don’t wanna talk about it. It sucked.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/90 "2009-06-18T23:05:36Z")

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Oh, and if it wasn’t clear in my post: I think this is something you’d probably see between any two different enough cultures. I know I hear my black friends saying that my white friends let their kids go crazy. Etc and so forth. Maybe I have a big group of horrible, racist friends, but I think it’s more likely that it’s just human nature to want to categorize people and figure out our differences— then comment on them.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/91 "2009-06-18T23:25:10Z")

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> [@jackofsevens](#):
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> Maybe I should have been more PC and said “I hate it when “ANY” Parent doesn’t control their kids”

That would not have been “PC”, it would have been RIGHT.

If _then_ you illustrated your point by referring to a specific case incidentally involving Mexicans, and people took you to task for racism over it, you could say they were being too sensitive. But you made your OP be 100% about Mexicans, from title to closing line, and only started claiming the general case \*after \*being ripped into.

Too late. Take your well-deserved ripping like a man.

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**Author:** ![jackofsevens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jackofsevens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackofsevens)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/92 "2009-06-18T23:27:27Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> That would not have been “PC”, it would have been RIGHT.
> 
> If _then_ you illustrated your point by referring to a specific case incidentally involving Mexicans, and people took you to task for racism over it, you could say they were being too sensitive. But you made your OP be 100% about Mexicans, from title to closing line, and only started claiming the general case \*after \*being ripped into.
> 
> Too late. Take your well-deserved ripping like a man.

I’m taking it.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/93 "2009-06-18T23:28:51Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Plural + Anecdote != Data

That’s beautiful!

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**Author:** ![Rack-a-Bones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rack-a-Bones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rack-a-Bones)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/94 "2009-06-18T23:28:55Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Look, I know it’s not “PC” to say it, but you know and I know that Minnesota has a total area of 86,943 square miles. I’m just the only one around here with the guts to say what we’re all thinking.

8+6+9+4+3 = 30  
Add the first and last number and you get 11  
30-11 = 19  
So you see you get 1911 which is 1-9-11 which of course is 9/11/2001. The Minnesotans are responsible for 9/11. Fucking Minnesotans.

> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> **TLDR/VCO3,** is that youuuuuu?

I thought this too when I read the first few posts. Or maybe **2 and a half inches**?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/95 "2009-06-18T23:31:45Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> Why is this thread right on top of “Pennsylvania rednecks beat illegal Mexican immigrant”?

The Chinese.

> [@](#):
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> I’m Swiss, by the way.

I knew it. You’re all alike, you bunch of clocksucking, Pepin-humping, cheese-holing, Federer-loving neutralkeeping goldbugging sillyguarding gnomic Alphorn monkeys!

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**Author:** ![jackofsevens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/0ea827/32.png) [@jackofsevens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackofsevens)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/96 "2009-06-18T23:32:09Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Oh, and if it wasn’t clear in my post: I think this is something you’d probably see between any two different enough cultures. I know I hear my black friends saying that my white friends let their kids go crazy. Etc and so forth. Maybe I have a big group of horrible, racist friends, but I think it’s more likely that it’s just human nature to want to categorize people and figure out our differences— then comment on them.

Thanks for the feedback, seems like you’re the only one who kind of understands where I was coming from.

I just couldn’t understand why “someone” would let their kids act that way in public.

So now at SDMB I’ll be permanently labeled a racist.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/97 "2009-06-18T23:33:04Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> That would be “The Jews”.

…by Duran Duran.  
Hmmm…“Juran Juran”?

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/98 "2009-06-18T23:36:14Z")

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> [@jackofsevens](#):
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> Thanks for the feedback, seems like you’re the only one who kind of understands where I was coming from.
> 
> I just couldn’t understand why “someone” would let their kids act that way in public.
> 
> So now at SDMB I’ll be permanently labeled a racist.

Well, I’m not saying you took the most tactful approach or anything ;), I’m just saying it’s an interesting cultural difference that- had it been brought up with a bit more sensitivity, could have led to an interesting discussion.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/99 "2009-06-18T23:46:28Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I knew it. You’re all alike, you bunch of clocksucking, Pepin-humping, cheese-holing, Federer-loving neutralkeeping goldbugging sillyguarding gnomic Alphorn monkeys!

You forgot butterballs.

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mexicans-control-your-damn-kids-while-in-public/500209/100 "2009-06-18T23:51:26Z")

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Lousy, stinking, Franco-phonic, bacon-eating bastards.

Wait…no…

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