# MGM movies and the lion

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 19, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815 "2019-02-19T08:27:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/1 "2019-02-19T08:27:33Z")

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Just popped an MGM film into the DVD player, and got the lion before it started. The lion roared twice, and I recall the lion roaring twice before other MGM films. While I understand that this is easy enough to film once, and repeat in a number of films, my question is:

How did they get the lion to roar twice?

Did they tweak his tail? Did they offer treats? Or did they just repeat the first roar?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2019, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/2 "2019-02-19T12:48:47Z")

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There have been sewveral MGM lions. And there have been several websites about them. The easiest to find is the Wikipedia one:

> **[Leo the Lion (MGM)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_the_Lion_(MGM))**
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> Leo the Lion is the mascot for the Hollywood film studio Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and one of its predecessors, Goldwyn Pictures, featured in the studio's production logo, which was created by the Paramount Pictures art director Lionel S. Reiss.
> Since 1917, and through the time the studio was formed by the merger of Samuel Goldwyn's studio with Marcus Loew's Metro Pictures and Louis B. Mayer's company in 1924, there have been eleven different lions used for the MGM logo.\[citation needed\] Although MGM ...

> **[The history of the MGM lions | Logo Design Love](https://www.logodesignlove.com/the-mgm-lions)**
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> The classic MGM logo was created in 1916 for the Goldwyn Pictures Corporation by ad executive Howard Dietz.

> **[The Story Behind… The MGM Logo](https://www.myfilmviews.com/2012/02/02/the-story-behind-the-mgm-logo/)**
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> My journey into stories behind famous movie related things we take for granted continues, this week’s choice is the MGM Logo. Turns out the lion has been roaring for a long time.

At least one of the lions was trained to growl on command.

For _A Night at the Opera_, the Marx brothers came on after the Lion and growled:

Here's a compilation of lions:
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Y0b0flbq7Ac/maxresdefault.jpg "Updated MGM Logo History (1916-2017)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0b0flbq7Ac)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/3 "2019-02-20T11:10:15Z")

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Related: [the MTM kitten and its variants.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYNId_Kvbo)

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**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/4 "2019-02-20T12:30:56Z")

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The first several lions look either really confused or really high. I didn’t see it mentioned in the articles but was the intention always for the lion to roar or was the first roarer a happy accident? I love lions!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2019, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/5 "2019-02-22T21:11:28Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Related: [the MTM kitten and its variants.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYNId_Kvbo)

I love the second \*Newhart \*one, with Bob blandly saying “Meow.”

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**Author:** ![Dobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Dobbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dobbs)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/6 "2019-02-23T00:36:19Z")

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And don’t forget this one [Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (Strange Brew variant) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/cGSeLaGeo9A)

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**Author:** ![MickNickMaggies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/59ef9b/32.png) [@MickNickMaggies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MickNickMaggies)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mgm-movies-and-the-lion/829815/7 "2019-02-23T22:12:37Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Related: [the MTM kitten and its variants.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kYNId_Kvbo)

Missing the great ‘Mimsie on life support’ from the last ep. of St Elsewhere, it seems!
