# Mia Farrow says her child with Woody might be Sinatra's **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 2, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214 "2013-10-02T21:32:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/41 "2013-10-03T06:32:37Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Soon-Yi is not and has never been Woody Allen’s daughter. But she may yet be in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/42 "2013-10-03T06:36:14Z")
Nah, not then either. But thanks for catching the omission. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/43 "2013-10-03T07:46:01Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Jackie Mason (himself a ‘detached’ father) said that Sinatra had him beaten up back in the '60s when he told jokes about Sinatra and Farrow’s marriage. IIRC the joke was about their wedding night: “She puts her hair in curlers, he puts his on the dresser, she puts in her retainer and he takes out his teeth.” This actually make me laugh out loud. And yes, there’s no doubt who Ronan’s parents are. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/44 "2013-10-03T07:52:16Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Sure Sinatra had a natural singing talent and he was a decent actor but Woody Allen has him beat in the brilliant and talented department hands down. Odd. I’ve always thought Woody is about as brilliant as a refrigerator light bulb. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/45 "2013-10-03T09:36:45Z")
It also struck me she’s more than a little sour about the Soon-Yi thing, I really don’t think it’s beyond Mia to twist the knife every once in a while. She may even believe what she says … ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/46 "2013-10-03T16:15:43Z")
So if he was proven to be a Sinatra, would Woody be entitled to a refund of his (I’m guessing substantial) child.support? ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/47 "2013-10-03T16:23:52Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Man, have you guys been studying the Ned Stark school of paternity tests? His father is clearly David Rasche [(Sledge Hammer!)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090525/). “Trust me, I know what I’m doing.” ---
**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/48 "2013-10-03T16:27:14Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > It also struck me she’s more than a little sour about the Soon-Yi thing, I really don’t think it’s beyond Mia to twist the knife every once in a while. It’s beyond understandable for her to be ‘a little sour’. Allen’s behavior was beyond disgusting. Can’t blame the kid either, for wanting to distance himself from the repellent creep. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/49 "2013-10-03T16:30:56Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So if he was proven to be a Sinatra, would Woody be entitled to a refund of his (I’m guessing substantial) child.support? I don’t know how it is in New York. But here and in most states I’ve heard of the courts really don’t give a shit about paternity. The time to fight that is prior to the child custody agreement. Once that is done you are the father regardless of his DNA. Even if the woman purposely deceived the guy about the paternity. No idea if there was actual child support paid in this case. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/50 "2013-10-03T16:34:01Z")
Nevermind just saw a cite that said $6,000 a month child support. [http://books.google.com/books?id=-K-fUx9zxb4C&pg=PA273&lpg=PA273&dq=woody+allen+child+support&source=bl&ots=XN8Ygg8L75&sig=b4MvOcYmcnadNkWDyhSvVNH68cI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JZxNUrOROMruyQHKlYGQBQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=woody%20allen%20child%20support&f=false](http://books.google.com/books?id=-K-fUx9zxb4C&pg=PA273&lpg=PA273&dq=woody+allen+child+support&source=bl&ots=XN8Ygg8L75&sig=b4MvOcYmcnadNkWDyhSvVNH68cI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=JZxNUrOROMruyQHKlYGQBQ&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=woody%20allen%20child%20support&f=false) ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/51 "2013-10-03T16:35:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > So if he was proven to be a Sinatra, would Woody be entitled to a refund of his (I’m guessing substantial) child.support? This is a Judge Judy show that would get blockbuster ratings! Regardless who Ronan’s father really is, the kid is drop dead gorgeous, brilliant, witty and apparently well-grounded. I would call this the equivalent of winning the Powerball Gene Lottery. He is also on a rather interesting career path. Any doubt he will be running for office in short order? I guess we will only know for sure when he breaks into song and sings “My Way” during his first political ad. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/52 "2013-10-03T16:59:32Z")
[QUOTE=DMark] I guess we will only know for sure when he breaks into song and sings “My Way” during his first political ad. [/QUOTE] Or goes into a long funny neurotic rant about what it all means. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/53 "2013-10-03T17:40:04Z")
> [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](#): > > It’s beyond understandable for her to be ‘a little sour’. Allen’s behavior was beyond disgusting. Can’t blame the kid either, for wanting to distance himself from the repellent creep. I know, a 16-year marriage and two adopted kids. Shocking. I’d feel much more comfortable if he were so bitter about something that happened 20 years ago he continued to use his kids against his ex partner. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/54 "2013-10-03T18:22:01Z")
Exactly. Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were never married, nor did they ever live together. Allen and Soon-Yi did not meet until she was seventeen. Allen never adopted Soon-Yi and never lived with her in Farrow’s home. He and Soon-Yi began their romance when she was nineteen. Allen’s only known and proven offense was falling in love with and marrying his girlfriend’s daughter, a love and marriage which has stood the test of time far better than most of either Farrow or Sinatra’s marriages, and with far less evidence of longstanding infidelity to boot. ---
**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/55 "2013-10-03T18:46:23Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Allen and Soon-Yi did not meet until she was seventeen. Are you sure of this? Soon-Yi was born around 1972 (apparently her birth date is uncertain), adopted by Farrow in 1978, and Farrow’s relationship with Allen began in 1980, when Soon-Yi was around 8. Seems like they would have met earlier than you suggest. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/56 "2013-10-03T18:57:21Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Exactly. Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were never married, nor did they ever live together. Allen and Soon-Yi did not meet until she was seventeen. Soon-Yi was apparently one of the kids in _Hannah and Her Sisters_ (1986). Not sure how old she was but it would appear Woody knew her before she was 17. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/57 "2013-10-03T19:05:14Z")
I recall having read at some point in the past - I think on Wiki - that she was seventeen when they met. Looks like that may be in error though, so perhaps that part of my post should be taken with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/58 "2013-10-03T19:20:11Z")
Looking into it a little further it appears you guys are right and that Allen and Soon-Yi were indeed acquainted while she was still a child. I retract the statement that she was seventeen when they met and apologize for the error. FWIW, I did however find this statement from Soon-Yi on the nature of their relationship at that time: > [@](#): > > Back in 1992, Soon-Yi Previn told Time magazine she never considered Allen a father figure in her life. > > “To think that Woody was in any way a father or stepfather to me is laughable. My parents are Andre Previn and Mia, but obviously they’re not even my real parents,” Previn said at the time. “I came to America when I was seven. I was never remotely close to Woody. He was someone who was devoted exclusively to his own children and to his work, and we never spent a moment together.” > > Previn also said the two began seeing each other around the time she was 20-years-old. She told Time magazine “By that time his relationship with Mia was long done, and they were going through the motions.” She added, “They were friendly but rarely went out, and apart from when they worked together or played with their children, had little to do with one another.” ---
**Author:** ![toast\_pakora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@toast\_pakora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toast_pakora)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/59 "2013-10-03T19:34:31Z")
> [@](#): > > It also struck me she’s more than a little sour about the Soon-Yi thing, Maybe think of it like this: You come across some nude photos of your college-age daughter. You’re upset but she’s an adult. They might have been taken for an art class, or they might have been taken by a college-age boyfriend. Then she tells you that they were taken by the man with whom you’ve been in a relationship for 10 years. ---
**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/60 "2013-10-03T19:43:01Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > I know, a 16-year marriage and two adopted kids. Shocking. Have either of the adopted kids hit puberty yet? When is planning on trading in Soon-yi, do you think? The implication you’re making, that Mia Farrow’s anger is somehow based in jealousy, is also gross. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214.md?page=4)