# Mia Farrow says her child with Woody might be Sinatra's **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 2, 2013, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214 "2013-10-02T21:32:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/61 "2013-10-03T20:00:32Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Exactly. Woody Allen and Mia Farrow were never married, nor did they ever live together. Allen and Soon-Yi did not meet until she was seventeen. Allen never adopted Soon-Yi and never lived with her in Farrow’s home. He and Soon-Yi began their romance when she was nineteen. Allen’s only known and proven offense was falling in love with and marrying his girlfriend’s daughter, a love and marriage which has stood the test of time far better than most of either Farrow or Sinatra’s marriages, and with far less evidence of longstanding infidelity to boot. Allen and Soon-Yi met when she was _ten_. Get your facts right, for crying out loud. I’ve never like Woody Allen. He is too creepy for my tastes, even before the whole Mia/Soon-Yi bruhaha. Taking Mia to court for custody, claiming she was an “unfit mother” was the breaking point for me. He also accused her of accusing him of sexually molesting Satchell (a/k/a Ronan). Something which was absolutely nothing but a big lie, designed to make Mia look bad. Mia has wanted nothing but to have nothing to do with Allen. She begged him to get out of her life before and after she found the photos of spread eagle Soon-Yi, and he would not go. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/62 "2013-10-03T20:07:51Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Taking Mia to court for custody, claiming she was an “unfit mother” was the breaking point for me. He also accused her of accusing him of sexually molesting Satchell (a/k/a Ronan). Something which was absolutely nothing but a big lie, designed to make Mia look bad. I remember that. It exploded in his face when on the stand he could not give Moses’s birthday or the name of his teacher or his favorite or least favorite foods. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Another correction is in order too: > > Soon-Yi is not and has never been Woody Allen’s daughter. Just for the record, I never claimed this. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/63 "2013-10-03T20:12:07Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Another correction is in order too: > > Soon-Yi is not and has never been Woody Allen’s daughter. Another point to make - the story is that Soon-Yi chased after Woody. Now, sure he’s creep for letting her, but he was not the aggressor. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/64 "2013-10-03T20:13:22Z")
For the record, WOODY ALLEN was the one who brought the whole mess to the press by filing a custody suit and then holding a press conference stating there was nothing wrong with his affair with Soon-Yi. Until that point, the whole thing had been kept out of the public’s eye for nine months. Mia never gave a press conference, filed a custody suit, or tried to make Woody look bad. She did try to keep him from unsupervised visitation with their three children. In court, the judge agreed to let Allen have unsupervised visitation with his biological son. Allen refused, stating that he would only visit with all three children or nothing. ETA: > [@Icarus](#): > > Another point to make - the story is that Soon-Yi chased after Woody. Now, sure he’s creep for letting her, but he was not the aggressor. Correction: WOODY’S story is that Soon-Yi chased after him. She was 17, and apparently he wasn’t mature enough to see how wrong it was. And I wouldn’t believe that he was not the aggressor in a million years. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/65 "2013-10-03T20:39:21Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Allen and Soon-Yi met when she was _ten_. Get your facts right, for crying out loud. Ahem, I realize that Wooty Allen is a subject you’re inclined to go off half cocked on, but if you’ll settle down and read my subsequent posts you’ll see that I acknowledged, retracted and apologized for that comment. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/66 "2013-10-03T20:44:47Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I remember that. It exploded in his face when on the stand he could not give Moses’s birthday or the name of his teacher or his favorite or least favorite foods. > > Just for the record, I never claimed this. I could have sworn you referred to Soon-Yi in your OP as Allen’s daughter and that I went back to double check before posting my correction. There’s no trace of it or the sentence (paragraph?) that contained it now, however. Curious, that. I’ll have more on Mia Farrow later. She’s quite the piece of work. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/67 "2013-10-03T21:03:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Ahem, I realize that Wooty Allen is a subject you’re inclined to go off half cocked on, but if you’ll settle down and read my subsequent posts you’ll see that I acknowledged, retracted and apologized for that comment. Oh, please. You were called out on the “Woody Allen met Soon-Yi when she was 17” bullshit in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=16039807) thread in February. You know, the one in which you claimed Soon-Yi wasn’t Ronan, Dylan and Moses’s sister, and Mia Farrow brought the whole Allen/Soon-Yi affair to light. You go off half-cocked on Mia Farrow, citing a source from 50 years ago that she’s “a piece of work.” You constantly defend Woody Allen, blaming the whole mess on Soon-Yi chasing him, Mia being jealous, and Allen being the poor innocent victim. I find that absolutely disgusting. Woody is as much to blame, if not more so, than the two women. And he has said that he doesn’t consider adoptive children to be the same as biological children, something I’m sure upsets his own two adoptive children with Soon-Yi. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/68 "2013-10-03T21:15:33Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > The father of _ **Rosemary’s Baby** _ is in doubt? > [@Sampiro](#): > > He has his father’s eyes. In a jar on the nightstand. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/69 "2013-10-03T21:52:26Z")
What on earth is the point of talking about this publicly at this point? Is it still important to zing Woody Allen this way? I mean, the fact that his daughter, nee Dylan (she apparently goes by another name now much like Satchel/Ronan) is now saying that she regrets not being able, at age 7, to testify in the custody battle to verify that he molested her seems to be much, much, much more important than unproven assertions regarding Ronan’s paternity. Woody broke their family. They hate him. I appreciate that. But this is just tacky and frankly, none of our business. ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/70 "2013-10-03T21:58:43Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > What on earth is the point of talking about this publicly at this point? Because she still hasn’t got over it to the extent she still uses her kids to stick it to Allen. Again, and again. Really, what was the purpose of the interview? That woman is wrong in the head. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/71 "2013-10-03T22:23:14Z")
I was surprised when Mia Farrow got pregnant, allegedly by Woody Allen, because I just can’t imagine Allen having sex with ANYBODY and didn’t then. I’ve always wondered if the Soon-Yi Previn thing was voluntary on her part, too. ---
**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/72 "2013-10-03T22:45:25Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Because she still hasn’t got over it to the extent she still uses her kids to stick it to Allen. Again, and again. Really, what was the purpose of the interview? > > That woman is wrong in the head. Are you quite certain that her son, the politician in training, didn’t request the press attention? Before he hits the big time spotlight resembling Sinatra and looking nothing like Allen, don’t you think a convenient introduction to the general public would be well, convenient? ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/73 "2013-10-03T22:52:02Z")
What do you mean “am I quite certain” - who are you, Rumpole of teh Internet? ---
**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/74 "2013-10-03T23:01:44Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > What do you mean “am I quite certain” - who are you, Rumpole of teh Internet? Odd question from the poster who insists he understands Mia’s motives ---
**Author:** ![BrokenBriton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@BrokenBriton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrokenBriton)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2013, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/75 "2013-10-03T23:05:08Z")
Objection, objection your Honour!!1!Counsul is personalising and trivialising. ---
**Author:** ![CLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f19dbf/32.png) [@CLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CLee)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/76 "2013-10-04T00:09:46Z")
> [@BrokenBriton](#): > > Objection, objection your Honour!!1!Counsul is personalising and trivialising. Actually, it’s you who seems a mite too invested. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/77 "2013-10-04T01:17:06Z")
FYI, for fans of Ronan Farrow, [MSNBC is talking to him](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/ronan-farrow-talks-host-msnbc-641539) about hosting a show on weekends. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/78 "2013-10-04T04:04:53Z")
I remember a few years back Ronan was in the news IIRC for something relating to his political work, and a coworker of mine called me over to her computer to show me the news site she was looking at and said basically “Mia Farrow and Woody Allen’s son is all grown up now, and he’s a genius, and he’s _smokin’_.” We were both kind of surprised that someone who’d inherited half his genetic material from Woody Allen wound up looking [like this](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ronan_Farrow_Headshot.jpg), but figured he took after his mother. But if Mia Farrow says it was possible that the father may have been Sinatra, well, I’d be pretty sure it was Sinatra. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/79 "2013-10-04T11:30:40Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I recall having read at some point in the past - I think on Wiki - that she was seventeen when they met. Looks like that may be in error though, so perhaps that part of my post should be taken with a grain of salt. Is it coincidence that whenever an adult has sex with a child you find a way to defend the adult’s behavior and ultimately are shown to be wrong? ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214/80 "2013-10-04T14:18:53Z")
Argh. Every single time I see this damn thread, I read the title as “Mia Farrow says her child with Woody might be **Satan’s** ”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-farrow-says-her-child-with-woody-might-be-sinatras/670214.md?page=5)