# Mia Love: Is there a better election story? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 5, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769 "2014-11-05T15:54:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/1 "2014-11-05T15:54:24Z")
I don’t pay much attention to politics. But I can’t think of a happier harbinger for this country’s polarized political crapfest than Mia Love’s election in Utah. [Thanks, Mia!](https://twitter.com/MiaBLove/status/529905751708270592/photo/1) ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/2 "2014-11-05T16:45:13Z")
First black republican congresswoman. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/3 "2014-11-05T17:08:01Z")
An announcement? Not a question, not a debate. Not sure what you want to discuss, it can’t be your opinion, because you didn’t share one. And the link provides not one iota of information beyond the meagre facts of your OP. It might be a great story, indeed. Too bad you’ve shared none of it. Imagine for a moment a world where not everyone is an American, or savvy enough to understand whatever it is you’re trying to say here. Just saying, a more informative link, or an actual discussion topic would have been nice. (But maybe that’s just me! Carry on!) ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/4 "2014-11-05T17:26:57Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > (But maybe that’s just me! Carry on!) Yeah, probably. Clues: [ul] [li]The subject line is a rhetorical question implying there’s not a better election story.[/li] [li]“Happy harbinger” is a phrase that means her election is, in **Chief Pedant** ’s _opinion_, a \*harbinger \*of things to come. A \*happy \*one.[/li] [li]The rest of the sentence indicates that he believes the current political climate is a polarized crapfest. Therefore, her election seems to indicate a change for the positive from that state.[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![dracoi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@dracoi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dracoi)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/5 "2014-11-05T17:43:38Z")
I gotta say I was left a little lost by the OP as well. If it wasn’t for Omar Little clarifying it, I might be wondering if the OP was actually being sarcastic. It might be a good sign overall. I’ve been saying for a long time that the Republicans would be very smart to make sure the first [minority] President was theirs. It would go a long way to disrupt the knee-jerk criticism of the Republicans as a party of old, rich, white guys. But I still don’t know anything about her politics. If she’s some crazed Tea Party lunatic… we don’t need more Pauls (either one), Palins or Bachmanns, regardless of race or gender. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/6 "2014-11-05T18:18:11Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > [Thanks, Mia!](https://twitter.com/MiaBLove/status/529905751708270592/photo/1) What exactly are you thanking her for? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/7 "2014-11-05T18:57:32Z")
Black politicians get thanked constantly. Look at Obama! ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/8 "2014-11-05T20:52:29Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Yeah, probably. Not even remotely. Lame OP. My first guess was that there was an actual story not the mere fact that a black woman got elected. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/9 "2014-11-05T21:01:47Z")
Yeah, I understood the language. But I’m not in Utah and have no idea who this is or what’s so great about her story. Guess I was looking for a little context. The barest bones about the story doesn’t seem to be too much to ask in opening a discussion, in my opinion. (Yes, I certainly could Google it, I’m aware. I just think a better link with actual info might have been a better choice.) ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/10 "2014-11-05T21:07:26Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Yeah, I understood the language. > > But I’m not in Utah and have no idea who this is or what’s so great about her story. Guess I was looking for a little context. The barest bones about the story doesn’t seem to be too much to ask in opening a discussion, in my opinion. > > (Yes, I certainly could Google it, I’m aware. I just think a better link with actual info might have been a better choice.) She’s a black female immigrant republican. ---
**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/11 "2014-11-05T21:12:57Z")
Actually, there IS a better election story–[Saira Blair](http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/11/05/361723735/a-win-in-west-virginia-makes-saira-blair-states-youngest-lawmaker?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews), a high school senior who was elected to the West Virginia House of Delegates. She was only 17 when she won her party primary last summer. Not that her ideology is likely to appeal to many on this Board. And it **does** take something away from the story that her father is a State Senator. I’m not a fan of political dynasties. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/12 "2014-11-05T21:17:22Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > An announcement? Not a question, not a debate. Not sure what you want to discuss, it can’t be your opinion, because you didn’t share one. > > And the link provides not one iota of information beyond the meagre facts of your OP. > > It might be a great story, indeed. Too bad you’ve shared none of it. > > Imagine for a moment a world where not everyone is an American, or savvy enough to understand whatever it is you’re trying to say here. > > Just saying, a more informative link, or an actual discussion topic would have been nice. > > (But maybe that’s just me! Carry on!) I’m an American and I have no more clue what the OP meant than you do. Even the posts since yours haven’t added any light. ---
**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/13 "2014-11-05T21:17:26Z")
Well, now that I’ve read up on her political positions, I can’t say that I’m very happy about her election, since I disagree with everything she stands for. But her constituency obviously supports her. I just don’t see how she is going to improve the polarization of politics, since she seems to be very strongly conservative and not someone who will be interested in compromising with liberal colleagues. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/14 "2014-11-05T23:33:07Z")
> [@SpoilerVirgin](#): > > … since she seems to be very strongly conservative and not someone who will be interested in compromising with liberal colleagues. That could be what’s got the OP so excited. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/15 "2014-11-05T23:49:31Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > An announcement? Not a question, not a debate. Not sure what you want to discuss, it can’t be your opinion, because you didn’t share one. > > And the link provides not one iota of information beyond the meagre facts of your OP. > > It might be a great story, indeed. Too bad you’ve shared none of it. > > Imagine for a moment a world where not everyone is an American, or savvy enough to understand whatever it is you’re trying to say here. > > Just saying, a more informative link, or an actual discussion topic would have been nice. > > (But maybe that’s just me! Carry on!) Dead Center with no “magic 8-ball” rationalizations. > [@CarnalK](#): > > Not even remotely. Lame OP. Totally Lame OP. More opinion, less billboard please. If you can’t be bothered to write it, why would the reader be bothered to read it or care? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/16 "2014-11-05T23:49:49Z")
Any election story that doesn’t end with a Republican winning is better than any election story that does. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/17 "2014-11-06T07:22:20Z")
So a congressional seat held by a popular Democrat, the son of the popular governor of Utah when I was young, was gerrymandered in 2011,unfairly enough that the Mormon-run Deseret News complained, to eliminate much of his support. He managed to win against Love in 2012, but got tired and dropped. Another Democrat stepped in but was unable to win. And this helps bipartisanship, how? ---
**Author:** ![Orwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/dfb087/32.png) [@Orwell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orwell)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/18 "2014-11-06T14:45:54Z")
> [@dracoi](#): > > It might be a good sign overall. I’ve been saying for a long time that the Republicans would be very smart to make sure the first [minority] President was theirs. It would go a long way to disrupt the knee-jerk criticism of the Republicans as a party of old, rich, white guys. > > But I still don’t know anything about her politics. If she’s some crazed Tea Party lunatic… we don’t need more Pauls (either one), Palins or Bachmanns, regardless of race or gender. We desperately need more Pauls in politics. Smart, accomplished people who say what they think, and who introduce bills and vote in accordance with their conscience and informed analysis, not what their party tells them. You have no idea what you are talking about if you equate the Tea Party, Ron Paul, Rand Paul and Palin/Bachmann as being similar. You are talking about at least three separate political stances/platforms. As for your first paragraph, we’ve seen what happens when blacks (Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, Condaleeza Rice, Walter Williams, Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Alan Keyes, etc.) aren’t in the “correct” party. They are marginalized, called Uncle Toms and ridiculed for turning their backs on “their own” by those on the left who dwell on race and skin color. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/19 "2014-11-06T15:52:03Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > An announcement? Not a question, not a debate. Not sure what you want to discuss, it can’t be your opinion, because you didn’t share one. Sorry; I thought you’d be able to make the jump to the correct inference: IMHO there is no better election story than that of Mia Love. Hope that helps. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769/20 "2014-11-06T16:03:33Z")
Bah! The re-election of Clifford Lee ensuring stable and consistent leadership coupled with a decent rink is the best thing to happen this month. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mia-love-is-there-a-better-election-story/703769.md?page=2)