# MIB II was nowhere near as good as MIB

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 5, 2002, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427 "2002-07-05T00:15:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/21 "2002-07-06T20:32:04Z")

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> The direction was…directionless

Well, let’s look at what Sonnenfeld has directed…

_The Addams Family_. I liked it, even though the Gomez character was _completely_ mis-directed. Nothing like the “real” Gomez.

_For the Love of Money_. Didn’t see it. Never heard of it.

_Addams Family Values_. See _The Addams Family_.

_Get Shorty_. Saw it once because it was free with my DVD player. I can see how some people liked it, but I think it’s rather tedious and overblown.

_Men in Black_. I liked it. I have it on DVD. But it was lacking “something”.

_Maximum Bob_. That was a teevee series? Never heard of it.

_Wild Wild West_. Looked dreadful in the trailers. Avoided it.

_The Tick_. Yeah, that one was successful.

_Big Trouble_. Didn’t see it.

_Men in Black 2_. See comments from my first post.

I like the concept of MiB. I like the characters. But Sonnenfeld shouldn’t have directed either one of them. He’s just not a very good director.

BTW: Spielberg also exec-produced the original MiB film.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/22 "2002-07-07T05:41:49Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zuma \*  
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> Jesus Christ! Where in the hell do you live where you can see a movie for 6.50? About 15 years ago I remember grousing about 7 dollar movie prices.
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> I haven’t seen a sub-9.00 movie in YEARS.
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> Men in Black II is obviously crap, but 6.50? This is the real mystery. There is a second-run theater where you can get in for 3 bucks. but six fifty for first run? I don’t get it. \*\*

Knoxville, TN, baby. Mrs. JohnT and I paid a total of $11.00 for the two of us to get in to see AOTC, or $5.50 a ticket. The ticket agent kinda apologized, saying that they had to charge “full price” for AOTC, because the usual matinee price is $4.50.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2002, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/23 "2002-07-13T17:52:48Z")

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I enjoyed the movie. It wasn’t the best, but it wasn’t the worst either.

I liked the short film before the actual movie. Everytime that little guy just threw a string of letters out to spell respect made me tear up from laughing so hard.

Anyway, I searched this thread out to ask a particular question, who is the girl in the video store working with David Cross? She looks so familiar, but I can’t put my finger on it.

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**Post date:** [July 13, 2002, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/24 "2002-07-13T18:52:50Z")

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It costs $5.50 to go to the movies here, but I get matinee showings for free because my best friend works there. 🙂

But about the movie, I didn’t think it was half bad. Seemed incredibly short, though. The “All is Lost!” part was pretty funny.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/25 "2002-07-14T02:11:25Z")

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I enjoyed it. Frank and the Worms were myt favourite characters in the cartoon, so I was happy to see them getting some major screen time. And they’re properly in character, too, which is good.

My minor complaints:

1. If K knew something bad would happen to the Light at Midnight of that day…why, why WHY did he neurolise himself concerning it?

2. Zed’s little martial arts bit with Serleena - funny, but completely out of the blue.

3. Ballchinian? -\_-;

Oh, and the little short before the movie was worth the price of admission alone.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/26 "2002-07-14T10:19:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by airdisc \*  
> \*\*I liked it too. I could hear the audience groaning when WLTDO started playing while Frank was waiting in the car.
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> Though it was too short. \*\*

Yeah, I thought that scene should have been longer too. 😃

And, **Johnny** , _Big Trouble_ was a very bland movie in terms of direction. Quite funny (based on a book by Dave Barry, after all), but still quite bland.

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> Oh, and the little short before the movie was worth the price of admission alone.

There was a short before the movie? 😕

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/27 "2002-07-14T18:30:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Johnny L.A. \*
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> Well, let’s look at what Sonnenfeld has directed…  
> …  
> _Maximum Bob_. That was a teevee series? Never heard of it.

Heheh. I remember _Maximum Bob_ - that was a dumb show about the redneck state judge from Florida, Bob, who always gave out the maximum possible sentence.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/28 "2002-07-14T20:40:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by KKBattousai \*  
> \*\*There was a short before the movie? 😕 \*\*

Yeah. Little animated thing with aliens. Funny as hell.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/29 "2002-07-14T20:46:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tengu \*  
> \*\*Yeah. Little animated thing with aliens. Funny as hell. \*\*

_The ChubbChubbs are Coming!_, Sony Pictures’ secret weapon. Well, it’s not much a weapon as it is an animated short, but a weapon in the sense as [a showpiece](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20020709/film_variety/film_animation_dc_1) to tell people that Sony has a competent computer animation division. And can you believe it was originally not planned to be released?

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/30 "2002-07-14T21:49:29Z")

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All who predicted that the lil’ fuzzballs would become EVIL, say aye. Aye.  
And all martial arts combat in MIB suffers from Jones’ Law: Whenever a person with mad Hand-2-Hand skillz meets a Big Honking Ass Gun(TM, appearing in Doom3), the gun always wins.  
In short, using kung-fu when ranged weapons are available is inherently foolish.  
Hijack:  
Oh dear lord. The trailer for Matrix Reloaded looked vaguely like a Chinese wire-fu movie. The Agents wear suits. People in suits look uncommonly silly wileding falchions and tridents.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/31 "2002-07-14T22:09:43Z")

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MIB II is the kind of movie you see because the theater has air conditioning. That’s all I have to say about that.

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**Author:** ![fallapart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fallapart/32/3018_2.png) [@fallapart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fallapart)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/32 "2002-07-15T05:16:29Z")

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when i saw it, there wasent a short!! whats the deal??

any-who, i just went for the cameo by david cross, now That was worth the price of addmission. (5.75)

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/33 "2002-07-15T17:29:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by fallapart \*  
> **when i saw it, there wasent a short!! whats the deal??**

Nice to see it wasn’t just me. ☹

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**Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mib-ii-was-nowhere-near-as-good-as-mib/117427/34 "2002-07-16T00:54:22Z")

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Hey, I don’t remember a short film before the main picture either! It was probably better.😃

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