# Michael Cohen's House testimony **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 27, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297 "2019-02-27T15:16:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/281 "2019-02-27T23:23:20Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > No. Closed-door. That’s the one that’s likely to get into the Russian connections that went through Cohen (if any). Thanks. And, damn! I wanted more horrorshow! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/282 "2019-02-27T23:27:30Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > Thanks. > > And, damn! I wanted more horrorshow! Was it horrorshow, me droog? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/283 "2019-02-27T23:32:26Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I missed parts and haven’t been over a ton of sources, but was there any new information that Cohen added? I mean we’ve known about his payments to Stormy, the under and over value of his and his property’s worth, the racism, the lies about the Trump Moscow tower, his hypocrisy about almost anything Obama did, his bullshit deferment from Vietnam, that he cheats on his taxes, and Don Jr is a total dipshit. > > I suppose I didn’t know about his hiding of Trump’s academic records, but it struck me that a vast majority of what he testified about has been already been known. > > I suppose I’m just hoping that now, with his testimony, there will actual investigations that will actually hold people accountable, especially for the tax stuff. And that’s the main difference with Watergate. With those hearings, we learned new stuff and public opinion shifted. With these hearings, nothing new was revealed. Maybe there was some extra corroboration but that’s it. No one’s mind was changed. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/284 "2019-02-27T23:34:04Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > And that’s the main difference with Watergate. With those hearings, we learned new stuff and public opinion shifted. With these hearings, nothing new was revealed. Maybe there was some extra corroboration but that’s it. No one’s mind was changed. Yeah, the republicans didn’t get anything out of the testimony. “So, you said he’s a crook and a liar? Anything new? We knew that when we voted for him.” ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/285 "2019-02-27T23:44:37Z")
Only saw excepts, but would it be accurate to summarize the Republican strategy to discredit Cohen as: “You’re obviously a liar. You must be lying about Trump doing nasty stuff. We know this because Trump is a scumbag and you worked for him for 10 years. You have no credibility!” ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/286 "2019-02-27T23:47:48Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > And that’s the main difference with Watergate. With those hearings, we learned new stuff and public opinion shifted. With these hearings, nothing new was revealed. Maybe there was some extra corroboration but that’s it. No one’s mind was changed. I’m a little more sanguine about today’s events. Sure, it’s doubtful than any congresscritter’s view changed. But in a larger sense, there’s a qualitative difference between a scoop in Buzzfeed that says Trump’s a scumbag, and sworn testimony in Congress broadcast live on all channels saying Trump’s a scumbag. And: thank God for the midterms. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/287 "2019-02-27T23:50:52Z")
I’m just curious if the White House scheduled the North Korea “summit” to coincide with this in a failed attempt to own the news cycle, or if Pelosi successfully did that to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/288 "2019-02-28T00:05:50Z")
So, fuck Jim Jordan. I wanted to email him. I guess I’ll sit down and write a proper letter tomorrow > [@](#): > > I am very interested in hearing your views on issues of importance to you. Due to the large volume of US Mail, email and faxes I receive, I am only able to accept messages from residents of the Fourth Congressional District of Ohio. Congressional courtesy dictates that Representatives be given the opportunity to assist their own constituents. If you are a resident of another district, I encourage you to contact your Representative in Congress by clicking the following link to find your Representative. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/289 "2019-02-28T00:09:35Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > I’m just curious if the White House scheduled the North Korea “summit” to coincide with this in a failed attempt to own the news cycle, or if Pelosi successfully did that to Trump. Must be some of that there 12D chess we’ve been hearing about all this time. I wonder where Nancy learned it. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/290 "2019-02-28T00:12:30Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > … > And: thank God for the midterms. Fuckin A. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/291 "2019-02-28T00:35:18Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Only saw excepts, but would it be accurate to summarize the Republican strategy to discredit Cohen as: > > “You’re obviously a liar. You must be lying about Trump doing nasty stuff. We know this because Trump is a scumbag and you worked for him for 10 years. You have no credibility!” There was also some focus on him getting a book/movie deal for his story, which was never resolved, and whether his testimony here was in order to earn lieniency for his sentence. That was their three-prong counter-attack. ---
**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/292 "2019-02-28T00:38:23Z")
I’m a resident of Jamie Raskin’s district. Quite pleased with my congressional representation today. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/293 "2019-02-28T01:06:05Z")
> [@chizzuk](#): > > I’m a resident of Jamie Raskin’s district. Quite pleased with my congressional representation today. I’m a resident of Mark Meadows’s district. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/294 "2019-02-28T01:08:34Z")
None of this changes much. Americans have accepted that they have a lying, bigoted shithead as president. Again, the simple analysis in the minds of most idiot voters is this: if I have a job, the president is doing his job; if I don’t, he’s not. That’s really what it comes down to. President Trump will only be removed from office if he is perceived as being a complete and total fuck up who’s destroying the country. That’s a hard conclusion to reach when the stock market is still near an all-time high and unemployment are at all-time lows. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/295 "2019-02-28T02:11:33Z")
Gym Jordan had a strong lead for most of the day in the category of biggest douche canoe, but Meadows made a strong showing towards the end. I call it a tie. I watched the whole thing. I loved the hints about what Jr and Eric and Ivana probably did, and it bolsters my prediction that Jr will be indicted next… and maybe soon. My favorite part was probably when whichever lady (I was listening on NPR at the time), either AOC or Pressley, suggested subpoenaing the tax returns. I know it wasn’t a sincere question, a “golly gee, you reckon we should get 'em?” But was it laying the groundwork for when it inevitably happens or was it a MUCH better subtle threat than Gaetz made? “Resign or we’re coming for the taxes, orange man.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/296 "2019-02-28T02:28:52Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Cohen: “I fear that even if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power.” Remember way back when the 'pubbies were in a panic about their ridiculous idea that Obama would change the constitution by [del]fiat[/del] executive order so he could remain president? I wonder how many of those very same 'pubbies will seriously advance the idea that Tan the Conman do that for himself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/297 "2019-02-28T02:30:49Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > None of this changes much. Americans have accepted that they have a lying, bigoted shithead as president. Again, the simple analysis in the minds of most idiot voters is this: if I have a job, the president is doing his job; if I don’t, he’s not. > > That’s really what it comes down to. President Trump will only be removed from office if he is perceived as being a complete and total fuck up who’s destroying the country. That’s a hard conclusion to reach when the stock market is still near an all-time high and unemployment are at all-time lows. You are giving them too much credit. Those who are perfectly fine with a lying bigoted shithead as president are those who either are lying bigoted shitheads themselves or those who aspire to being such. See my post [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21511601&postcount=30858): > [@The Trump Administration: A Clusterfuck in the Making](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-a-clusterfuck-in-the-making/774070/30874): > > All they see is someone with a high profile who hates the same people they hate. They also see him voicing that hate and not getting the unfair punishment (as they see it) they would if they voiced it just three fucking years ago. MAGA=Make America Garbage A’right. > > Bigoted worthless craven pieces of crap. Just like their pandering psychopathic hero. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/298 "2019-02-28T02:53:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Sounds like the GOP strategy is to ignore Trump entirely and try to smear Cohen. Of course. That’s all they’ve got. Meanwhile Cohen has bank records, checks, etc. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/299 "2019-02-28T02:55:05Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > All of the Orange Shitberg’s protectors are used, diseased scumbags, and that could be considered insulting to used, diseased scumbags. THIS. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/300 "2019-02-28T02:56:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Cohen says Trump directed his companies to misreporting his assets so his ranking on the Forbes 400 would increase every year and to get a loan. That is fraud. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297.md?page=16)