# Michael Cohen's House testimony

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 27, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297 "2019-02-27T15:16:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/321 "2019-02-28T14:54:07Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Yeah, I think the Republicans are really going to have an uphill battle, even in the delusion-friendly media climate of nowadays, trying to argue that “claims that President Trump is a racist, a con man and a cheat are despicable lies”.
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> Trump was widely known as a racist, a con man and a cheat **decades** before he was ever taken seriously as a Presidential candidate.

Outside of NYC and Atlantic City, NJ, I wonder just how much of the country knew this, versus the image Trump wanted to project and reinforced via _The Apprentice_. Hell, even here in NYC there are far, far too many who believe his lies, especially in Staten Island and certain neighborhoods in Queens.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/322 "2019-02-28T14:55:53Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I hear there is some nutjob that has a Nixon tattoo on his back. 😃

He also has an image of Trump between his butt cheeks, but he didn’t need to have it put there.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/323 "2019-02-28T14:57:25Z")

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Joe Walsh (the conservative guy, not the Eagles one) [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1100913999846301703):

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> No Republican today defended the character of Donald Trump. No Republican today defended the veracity of Donald Trump. No Republican today refuted the potential crimes committed by Donald Trump.
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> Every Republican today attacked Michael Cohen. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/324 "2019-02-28T15:07:52Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Joe Walsh (the conservative guy, not the Eagles one) [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1100913999846301703):

Seems to me, they don’t want to talk about it…

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/325 "2019-02-28T15:10:36Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Joe Walsh (the conservative guy, not the Eagles one) [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1100913999846301703):

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> No Republican today defended the character of Donald Trump. No Republican today defended the veracity of Donald Trump. No Republican today refuted the potential crimes committed by Donald Trump.
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> Every Republican today attacked Michael Cohen. That’s all.

Can’t defend the non-existent, can one?

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/326 "2019-02-28T15:13:24Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Seems to me, they don’t want to talk about it…

Now if only the orange one would turn his ugly head and walk away.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/327 "2019-02-28T15:18:15Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Seems to me, they don’t want to talk about it…

I’ve been on various message boards for well over 15 years and I do believe that’s the first “James Gang” reference I’ve ever read.

Excellent. I have my ear worm for the day.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/328 "2019-02-28T15:19:17Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Joe Walsh (the conservative guy, not the Eagles one) [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1100913999846301703):

What a fucking moron! Apparently he uses his sphincter for a brain. “No Republican today refuted the potential crimes committed by Donald Trump … [they] attacked Michael Cohen. That’s all.” They attacked him, why? They attacked him every single time he cited evidence against their malignant, lying, cheating, corrupt hero, why?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/329 "2019-02-28T15:20:35Z")

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The Dems really screwed up big league and downtown! Cohen tells all those lies about financial crimes, so now all Trump has to do is release all the documents and prove his total innocence! Game over, man, game over!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/330 "2019-02-28T15:20:49Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> I note that trump, in true trumpian fashion, is referring to a Congressional committee investigation as a “fake hearing”.

It strikes me that Trump is actually stupider than the stupidest maga-capped numpty out there.

I mean, Trump supporters are railing against the hearing, are posting nasty remarks about the Democrats, and are calling Cohen a liar, etc. etc.

But vanishingly few of them are so unremittingly stupid as to call the hearing “fake”. Trump himself is actually one of the dumbest Trumpers out there.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/331 "2019-02-28T15:33:12Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Joe Walsh (the conservative guy, not the Eagles one) [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1100913999846301703):
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> > No Republican today defended the character of Donald Trump. No Republican today defended the veracity of Donald Trump. No Republican today refuted the potential crimes committed by Donald Trump.
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> > Every Republican today attacked Michael Cohen. That’s all.

Right.

> [@Grima Wormtongue](#):
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> No Uruk Hai defended Saruman.
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> Every Uruk Hai today attacked the Ents. That’s all.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/332 "2019-02-28T15:36:16Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> What a fucking moron! Apparently he uses his sphincter for a brain. “No Republican today refuted the potential crimes committed by Donald Trump … [they] attacked Michael Cohen. That’s all.” They attacked him, why? They attacked him every single time he cited evidence against their malignant, lying, cheating, corrupt hero, why?

To be clear, Walsh is criticizing the Congressional Republicans, not excusing them. Walsh is in no way a Trump fan these days, although he admits to voting for him.

Some other recent tweets:

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> I like Jim Jordan. We’re friends and former colleagues. But this is so disappointing. He and all the other Republicans on this committee have made it their sole mission to protect Donald Trump. The search for the truth be damned. So disappointing.

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> If Cohen had spent 10 years being a fixer for a Democrat president and then decided to testify about the nefarious things that Democrat president did and had him do, Republicans would be applauding him and calling him a hero.

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> My side would be storming the White House if Barack Obama ever thought about declaring a national emergency.

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> First he sides with Putin. Then he sides with the Saudi Crown Prince. Now he sides with Kim Jong Un.
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> Whose side is he on?

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/333 "2019-02-28T15:38:06Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Joe Walsh (the conservative guy, not the Eagles one) [on Twitter](https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1100913999846301703):
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> > No Republican today defended the character of Donald Trump. No Republican today defended the veracity of Donald Trump. No Republican today refuted the potential crimes committed by Donald Trump.
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> > Every Republican today attacked Michael Cohen. That’s all.

Joe Walsh seems to be profiting somewhat from his years in the wilderness. He was the asshole who called out, “You lie!” during one of Barak Obama’s State of the Union addresses. While I still dislike many of his political stances, he’s actually showing some glimmers of compassion and intelligence over the last couple of years.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/334 "2019-02-28T15:41:34Z")

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Of course the hearing was fake, the last real one we had was the 11th Benghazi! hearing.

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**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/335 "2019-02-28T15:42:35Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> Joe Walsh seems to be profiting somewhat from his years in the wilderness. He was the asshole who called out, “You lie!” during one of Barak Obama’s State of the Union addresses. …

That was Joe **Wilson**.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/336 "2019-02-28T16:11:13Z")

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> I’ve been on various message boards for well over 15 years and I do believe that’s the first “James Gang” reference I’ve ever read.
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> Excellent. I have my ear worm for the day.

He’s telling us this, and he’s telling us that; changes it play by play. Says it doesn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/337 "2019-02-28T16:11:40Z")

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> [@Crotalus](#):
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> Now if only the orange one would turn his ugly head and walk away.

I know there must be something better, 'cause I can’t stay another night.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/338 "2019-02-28T16:32:27Z")

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Interesting development:

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> President Trump called @mattgaetz last night from Hanoi to talk the Cohen testimony and the threats (since rescinded) Gaetz made about Cohen.  
> “I was happy to do it for you. You just keep killing it,” Gaetz was heard telling him.  
> (Gaetz told me he doesn’t discuss calls w/POTUS)

> <https://twitter.com/IsaacDovere/status/1101131327137636353>

The source is Edward-Isaac Dovere, staff writer for The Atlantic.

Further:

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> Call happened at just before 9 PM last night DC time, which means that the president was making this phone call as he headed into his meetings with Kim for the day (Hanoi is 12 hours ahead), which of course seem to have fallen apart not long after

Good job in getting the President implicated in _even more_ witness-intimidation, Matt!

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/339 "2019-02-28T16:33:57Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> To be clear, Walsh is criticizing the Congressional Republicans, not excusing them. Walsh is in no way a Trump fan these days, although he admits to voting for him.

If that was a criticism, it was very poorly worded. Interpreted as a criticism, it clearly implies that Republicans _ **should have** _ done all those things he listed that they didn’t – defend Trump, refute the allegations of criminal activity, etc. Interpreted as praise, it clearly implies that their attack on Cohen does _ **not** _ equate to a defense of Trump, so they displayed tremendous integrity. Walsh should learn to write.

His tweet about Jim Jordan being disappointing made a lot more sense. Jordan was one of about three or four of the more outstanding assholes in that hearing.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-cohens-house-testimony/830297/340 "2019-02-28T16:46:07Z")

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> [@CaptMurdock](#):
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> I know there must be something better, 'cause I can’t stay another night.

Are you tired of the speeches and the way that the reasons keep changing – just to make the words rhyme?

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