# Michael Jackson Dead **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 25, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988 "2009-06-25T21:15:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AboutAsWeirdAsYouCanGet)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/261 "2009-06-26T06:41:21Z")
> [@](#): > > The man looked anorexic, even if he wasn’t. They were saying on the news show that I was watching that it may have been anorexia and drug issues. Ugh… ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/262 "2009-06-26T06:52:03Z")
I just noticed in the news that Uri Geller just came out of his rock. Even after Michael became a pariah, Geller was one of the few that got close to Michael, but so much for that closeness. As if we needed any more evidence for what a fraud Geller is, his “powers” could never figure out the dangers Michael was getting into. Both with children and with his body. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/263 "2009-06-26T07:22:50Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > I can easily see Neverland becoming an estate operated tourist attraction to rival Graceland (it even has it’s own “amusement park rides and zoo for a small extra fee”- how hard to add some concession stands?). Ain’t likely to happen – [MJ lost control of the ranch:](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverland_Ranch) > [@](#): > > On May 12, 2008, a foreclosure auction for the ranch was canceled after an investment company, Colony Capital LLC, purchased the loan. Jackson was in default on the $24.5 million owed on the 2,500-acre (10 km2) property.[12] In a press release, Jackson stated, “I am pleased with recent developments involving Neverland Ranch and I am in discussions with Colony and Tom Barrack with regard to the Ranch and other matters that would allow me to focus on the future.”[13][14] > > [snip] > > On November 11, 2008 Jackson transferred the title to Sycamore Valley Ranch Company LLC, and neighbors reported immediate **activity on the property including removal of the amusement rides**.[15] Jackson still owned an unknown stake in the property,[16] since Sycamore Valley Ranch is a joint venture between Jackson (represented by attorney L. Londell McMillan) and an affiliate of Colony Capital LLC (an investment company run by billionaire Thomas Barrack, Jr.).[17][18][19][20][21] The Santa Barbara County Assessor’s Office stated Jackson sold an unknown proportion of his property rights for $US35 million ---
**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/264 "2009-06-26T07:42:49Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > (snip) > Speaking of his kids, I’m guessing the AA batteries are hitting the floor like shotgun shells at a tri state turkey shoot as Nancy Grace’s vibrator ejects more copperheads than Lincoln in a magic mushroom fueld daydream while she speculates on the thousands of hours of coverage she’ll get from the custody trials. This is her retirement package. … > > Pardon my schadenfreude, but the passage of a god is such a rare thing, and when they fall from Olympus into the sea the tidal waves are fascinating to watch when you’re at the safe distance which cable so nobly provides. Just popping in to say that THIS is a thing of beauty. Bravo. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Yesterdog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/d07c76/32.png) [@Yesterdog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yesterdog)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/265 "2009-06-26T09:00:46Z")
MJ dies. So what do I do? Rush on to Straight Dope to see who had him on their celebrity death watch lists. HAHAHAHA. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/266 "2009-06-26T09:03:33Z")
Hey, as a tribute to MJ, I think we should all go out onto the streets and start to yell and destroy cars. Who’s with me? Quick , before sunrise. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/267 "2009-06-26T10:31:01Z")
an interesting thought, there is david caradine (70’s) ed mcmahan (80’s) farrah fawcett (60’s) and jackson (50’s); if one believes in the rule of 3 which decade group next? i do hope it will be 90 or 100. rabbi boteach is speaking on his passing from iceland. iceland, huh? he of course said he could see it coming from the way michael lived and used drugs. is very concerned about his children. in the next few days there will be quite a few people everywhere speaking of everything. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/268 "2009-06-26T11:26:11Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > I feel bad for his family. Let’s just get that out of the way. He was their brother and son and father, so they probably see him differently. That said, boo-frakking-hoo. He was their mealticket. What a weird day for me. The toaster nearly caught fire. Farah Fawcett died. My basement flooded (again). I blew out my last tampon. Michael Jackson died. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/269 "2009-06-26T12:08:30Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Speaking of his kids, I’m guessing the AA batteries are hitting the floor like shotgun shells at a tri state turkey shoot as Nancy Grace’s vibrator ejects more copperheads than Lincoln in a magic mushroom fueld daydream while she speculates on the thousands of hours of coverage she’ll get from the custody trials. This is her retirement package. The biological mothers evidently have no more rights than the biological parents of any other adopted child, yet you know they’ll sue; the Jackson [del]family[/del] tribe (how many of them are there? Dozens at least and many of them broke) will sue. I can’t imagine Michael giving much thought to his death so there’s no telling who the guardian is if there is one, and if he did it’s apt to be a triumvirate of Liza Minnelli, Bubbles and Dwight Babcock IV at Knickerbocker Bank, so it could be a battle royale. I want to have this paragraph’s babies. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/270 "2009-06-26T12:38:10Z")
I still think it’s very likely that the promoter (AEG Live) of that 50 gig deal in London is going to get paid more from the insurance than if Jacko had lived, because he would’ve flaked on some or all of the shows, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/271 "2009-06-26T12:43:47Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > What a weird day for me. > > The toaster nearly caught fire. Farah Fawcett died. My basement flooded (again). I blew out my last tampon. Michael Jackson died. Do you know any country singers? You might have a hit there. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/272 "2009-06-26T12:49:39Z")
> [@elelle](#): > > OK, I’ll get the twisted Blurt out of my mind first: > > Mortician in charge of MJ’s body funeral preparations: “Lord, it’s gonna be a loooooonnnnggg night of work here…” Why? He won’t even have to spring for any formaldehyde. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/273 "2009-06-26T12:53:09Z")
> [@](#): > > Speaking of his kids, I’m guessing the AA batteries are hitting the floor like shotgun shells at a tri state turkey shoot as Nancy Grace’s vibrator ejects more copperheads (snip) while she speculates on the thousands of hours of coverage she’ll get from the custody trials. This is her retirement package. Sampiro. This is the reason why you need to publish, you magnificient BASTARD! I am never going to look at Nancy Grace again without thinking of this. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/274 "2009-06-26T13:25:45Z")
I just introduced my daughter and her friend to a variety of Young Michael to About to Turn Quite Creepy Michael Jackson videos. My enthusiam for the Thriller video and explaining to them that _song_ in every house, on every car radio, in every city, in every state, in every country _across the [world](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide)_ . To say it was everywhere was pretty realistic. My daughter’s reaction to the dance sequence was, " Zombies can’t dance." So, I sold her off to white slavery and just put on my Thriller album. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/275 "2009-06-26T13:40:05Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Like, in that interview where he admitted to sleeping with kids with so much innocence. He didn’t have to admit to that, but he did; because maybe he honestly didn’t find it dirty…maybe he honestly didn’t molest anyone. I get this. I really do. I also understand innocent until proven guilty. But I used to work with developmentally disabled adults, many of whom have the same lack of understanding about what is appropriate. That doesn’t mean they should not be educated about it, be corrected when they do things that are not appropriate, suffer consequences when they break the law, etc. I knew clients who were on sex offender registries, even though they had a similar lack of understanding about why what they did was wrong. I’m not happy that he’s dead, make no mistake about that. And I don’t profess to have any inside track on his innocence or guilt. But someone, somewhere should have intervened more if he was unable to make that judgment call himself. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/276 "2009-06-26T13:43:25Z")
> [@emmaliminal](#): > > Are these both typos, or do I need to look up negative contractions again? Or “he wasn’t there” as in he wasn’t conscious, and “he wasn’t in full arrest” as in there’s something worse he could have been in? I started to type “if he wasn’t breathing..” got distracted and continued with the thought “if he was in full arrest” The two were merged. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/277 "2009-06-26T13:44:25Z")
Because I may never get a chance to quote this again: > [@Ron White](#): > > Maybe Michael Jackson molested those kids and maybe he didn’t. But I can tell you this: if somebody found a life-size doll of a woman in my house, everybody would assume that I was fuckin’ it. > > And they’d be right. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/278 "2009-06-26T14:35:17Z")
> [@Shirley\_Ujest](#): > > I just introduced my daughter and her friend to a variety of Young Michael to About to Turn Quite Creepy Michael Jackson videos. > > My enthusiam for the Thriller video and explaining to them that _song_ in every house, on every car radio, in every city, in every state, in every country _across the [world](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_worldwide)_ . To say it was everywhere was pretty realistic. > > My daughter’s reaction to the dance sequence was, " Zombies can’t dance." > So, I sold her off to white slavery and just put on my Thriller album. An entirely reasonable reaction (yours). ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/279 "2009-06-26T15:04:42Z")
TMZ is reporting that Jacko may have died from a Demerol overdose. Of course it is way too early to know that, but wasn’t that mentioned on the first page of this thread? ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988/280 "2009-06-26T15:17:06Z")
[Here](http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/06/thinking-about-michael.html) is an interesting piece written by Andrew Sullivan on Michael Jackson and the demons which plagued him. Again, I am not saying that he had no responsibility to resolve the issues that made him who he was (in the crazy sense), but I do kind of get that no one was exactly lining up to help him do so, not when they could cash in on him instead. And his money certain;ly would have been better spent on psychotherapy than on plastic surgery. And this from someone who was molested as a child. It’s a very conflicted thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-dead/500988.md?page=15)