# Michael Jackson needs lung transplant, might be dying **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 22, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305 "2008-12-22T13:46:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prelude_to_Fascination)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/21 "2008-12-22T17:09:29Z")
> [@Prelude\_to\_Fascination](#): > > Agreed. Very self-destructive, because no one was around to tell him no. > > "Rock ‘n’ roll will never die > But rock ‘n’ rollers do > I don’t know the reason why > I just know it’s true > > Rock ‘n’ roll is here to stay > But rock ‘n’ rollers fade away" > -Steven Banks :smack: That last line should be" “But rock ‘n’ rollers _pass_ away”. I missed the edit window. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/22 "2008-12-22T17:17:32Z")
Did you read any of the court documents? In this complaint Allen stated that Farrow said he had sexually abused his biological son Satchell (he didn’t, and nobody claimed he did), that Satchell was born in September (he was born in December) and that Mia had plans to adopt two more children (no plans had been made at the time). Several people, including Allen’s own parents, stated that his relationship with Dylan was inappropriate. Allen refused to visit with his sons if he couldn’t visit with Dylan at the same time. Do you think it’s okay for a woman’s 67 year old lover to have an affair with her 17 year old daughter? And then to excuse it because “she’s adopted?” Allen’s affair was creepy and wrong. The “creepiest” thing about Mia Farrow is that she adopts special needs children and gives them a good start in life. We should all be so creepy. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/23 "2008-12-22T17:41:03Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Yeah, I’ll admit it: I don’t wish bad luck on anyone, but there is a very short list of famous people I will “HA! ha!” when it happens to them. The top three are OJ, Jackson, and Woody Allen. Don’t forget Fred Phelps!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/24 "2008-12-22T17:46:17Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > Don’t forget Fred Phelps!😃 Phelps and Dubya are definitely fourth and fifth. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/25 "2008-12-22T17:53:53Z")
The guy’s a fucking child molester. I can’t think of a single reason to feel sorry for him. Incidentally, all Woody Allen did wrong was tap Soon Yi. She was too young for him, but he never had any kind of parent/child relationship with her. He was never married to Farrow and never lived with her, and Soon Yi’s adopted father was Andre Previn. The rest was just vindictive, insane bullshit on Farrow’s part. She wasn’t wrong to despise what he did with Soon Yi, but she went too far in accusing him of the other stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/26 "2008-12-22T17:55:40Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > His relationship with adopted daughter Dylan was creepy and bordered on pedophilia. Cite? What exactly was inappropriate about it? ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/27 "2008-12-22T18:08:26Z")
He was obsessed with her, and that behavior was observed by many people. He would come in the apartment, ignore everyone, pick Dylan up and take her into the other room. He climbed into her bed wearing only his undershorts, let her suck his thumb, and just basically was obsessed with the child. BTW, when Mia suspected he had sexually abused Dylan, she took the child to her pediatrician, the right thing to do. It was the _doctor_ who contacted the authorities, as required by law. Any parent is falsely accuses the other parent of falsely accusing them of molesting child (as Woody Allen accused Mia Farrow or saying he molested Satchell) is unfit. You do not falsely accuse a child of being molested under any circumstances whatsoever. Mia never said that Allen molested Satchell, yet he claimed that she did in public court documents. If that isn’t creepy and dispictable, I do not know what is. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/28 "2008-12-22T18:23:41Z")
“Obsessed?” That’s a loaded and subjective word to use about a parent and child. I love my own daughters. I pick them up. They crawl into bed with me when I’m in my shorts. I see nothing creepy about any of that. I can’t see how any of that is anything but normal daddy stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/29 "2008-12-22T18:24:21Z")
I really do miss 80’s Michael. There will never be another album as good as “Thriller”. I’m putting fucked-up Michael on my dead pool list though. And it’s not that I wish him any harm at all. I wish he wasn’t sick. That’s a lot of points though. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/30 "2008-12-22T18:31:53Z")
> [@scout1222](#): > > Like develop a protein deficiency? 😕 I mean, hey I don’t know what the real story is, but the article says he’s got an inherited condition. I’m not saying I know that’s the god’s honest truth, but I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he’s not killing himself for publicity. I don’t know. Seven years ago he claimed he had Anthrax, but that could have just been cover for this. ---
**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/31 "2008-12-22T18:33:32Z")
I don’t know why, but I am skeptical of this story. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/32 "2008-12-22T18:38:40Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > “Obsessed?” That’s a loaded and subjective word to use about a parent and child. I love my own daughters. I pick them up. They crawl into bed with me when I’m in my shorts. I see nothing creepy about any of that. I can’t see how any of that is anything but normal daddy stuff. Woody wouldn’t stop when Dylan told him to. She started running when he came into the house, screaming “Hide me! Hide me!” He would not leave the child alone. Nobody has addressed the issue of Allen falsely accusing Mia of falsely accusing him of sexually molesting Satchell. How would you defend that? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/33 "2008-12-22T18:43:00Z")
I don’t know it to be true. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/34 "2008-12-22T18:44:16Z")
It’s being rebutted: [Jacko not sick, except in head.](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470985,00.html) Yeah, I know, FOX News, but the original story is an allegation by a journalist possibly seeking publicity for an unauthorized biography, and not confirmed by an outside medical source, so, who do you wanna believe? - flips coin ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/35 "2008-12-22T19:37:14Z")
> [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#): > > I don’t know why, but I am skeptical of this story. That was my first reaction. I haven’t seen this story reported anywhere, and you know that everyone would jump on it the minute anything was uttered. That said, I hope it isn’t true. Michael Jackson may be this or that, you may feel sorry for him or not, but nobody can deny the musical contribution he’s made. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/36 "2008-12-22T20:01:24Z")
> [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#): > > I don’t know why, but I am skeptical of this story. Right. Has there been any evidence this is true? It is being confirmed by most other news sources? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/37 "2008-12-22T20:01:36Z")
> [@Sublight](#): > > You’re a little late, Michael Jackson died just over a year ago. He was a well-loved figure in the beer and whisky community, and will be deeply missed. March 27 1942 – August 30 2007 ☹ He is deeply missed. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/38 "2008-12-22T20:06:59Z")
Another scarred and disturbed genius whose demons couldn’t be contained. His life just turned into everybody’s nightmare. I have zero sympathy for pedophiles, and this just seems like appropriate payback, I guess. So many artists of that caliber are self-destructive and become parodies of themselves. A real shame, that’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/39 "2008-12-22T20:11:30Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Did you read any of the court documents? In this complaint Allen stated that Farrow said he had sexually abused his biological son Satchell (he didn’t, and nobody claimed he did), that Satchell was born in September (he was born in December) and that Mia had plans to adopt two more children (no plans had been made at the time). Several people, including Allen’s own parents, stated that his relationship with Dylan was inappropriate. Allen refused to visit with his sons if he couldn’t visit with Dylan at the same time. > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > He was obsessed with her, and that behavior was observed by many people. He would come in the apartment, ignore everyone, pick Dylan up and take her into the other room. He climbed into her bed wearing only his undershorts, let her suck his thumb, and just basically was obsessed with the child. This might all be true or might all be false. Either way, it tells me nothing. That you seem to think you really know what happened by reading accusations in a pleading says more about you than it does about either Allen or Farrow. > [@](#): > > Do you think it’s okay for a woman’s 67 year old lover to have an affair with her 17 year old daughter? It’s no less okay than any betrayal, but it’s an unexceptional kind of betrayal except to those who weren’t directly involved. > [@](#): > > Mia never said that Allen molested Satchell, yet he claimed that she did in public court documents. How do you know what Farrow “never” said? So far as I’m concerned, Farrow was pissed that her boyfriend was having an affair with her daughter. That’s perfectly understandable anger, but without any finding of wrongdoing, I don’t think we, as outsiders, are justified in taking as truth anyone’s accusations. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/40 "2008-12-22T20:11:38Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t know it to be true. I know he went after the under-aged daughter of the person he was dating. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305.md?page=3)