# Michael Jackson needs lung transplant, might be dying

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 22, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305 "2008-12-22T13:46:33Z")\
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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/41 "2008-12-22T20:24:44Z")

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Woody Allen dated Stacey Nelkin when she was a teenager. He cast Mariel Hemingway (age 17) as his lover in the movie Manhattan. The guys a creep.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/42 "2008-12-22T20:27:36Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> So far as I’m concerned, Farrow was pissed that her boyfriend was having an affair with her daughter.

Uh HELLO! What else would matter? The man is a predator.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/43 "2008-12-22T20:30:37Z")

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I am skeptical. If this is an inherited condition, how come none of his many brothers and sisters has it?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/44 "2008-12-22T20:31:48Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> So far as I’m concerned, Farrow was pissed that her boyfriend was having an affair with her daughter. That’s perfectly understandable anger, but without any finding of wrongdoing, I don’t think we, as outsiders, are justified in taking as truth anyone’s accusations.

her **underaged** daughter. If Soon-Yi had been 25 or 30 it might have been different–slight less creepy. But it was her 17 year old daughter.

The custody judge did find that Allen had no skills as a father, and gave Mia sole custody. He has had little to do with the three children since he loss the custody appeal.

The initial judge was swayed by Allen’s statement that he would not visit with Moses and/or Satchell unless he could also visit with Dylan. He found that creepy.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/45 "2008-12-22T20:32:46Z")

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Remember Michael’s iron lung – years and years ago? Maybe this is just a retread story, or indicative that Michaelhas some obsession about not being able to breathe.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/46 "2008-12-22T20:33:29Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> I am skeptical. If this is an inherited condition, how come none of his many brothers and sisters has it?

If it’s a recessive or sex-linked disorder, it merely means that Michael lost the throw of the genetic dice.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/47 "2008-12-22T20:40:11Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> her **underaged** daughter. If Soon-Yi had been 25 or 30 it might have been different–slight less creepy. But it was her 17 year old daughter.

Underage only in a legal sense. Seventeen year olds are adults in a biological and pretty much in a social sense as well. So, perhaps illegal, but not creepy in a paedophilia sense.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/48 "2008-12-22T20:40:49Z")

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OK. Well, time will tell if it’s true.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/49 "2008-12-22T20:46:58Z")

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> [@monstro](#):
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> Somehow it’s possible for me to find him both pitiable and repulsive. So I will probably shed a tear when he dies.

I’ll shed a tear, when he dies, for the talented black entertainer. Not the white she-male pedophile.

That has to be one of the strangest sentences I’ve ever written.

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**Author:** ![Shawn1767](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/50 "2008-12-22T20:50:15Z")

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Underage in a legal sense? According to this article, the legal age of consensual sex in New York is 17. And 16 in a lot of other places.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/51 "2008-12-22T20:51:16Z")

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Okay, then. Not underage at all.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/52 "2008-12-22T20:52:56Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> Remember Michael’s iron lung – years and years ago? Maybe this is just a retread story, or indicative that Michaelhas some obsession about not being able to breathe.

:smack: People _still_ believe this? How many times does this have to be debunked?

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/53 "2008-12-22T20:54:22Z")

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> [@Shawn1767](#):
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> Underage in a legal sense? According to this article, the legal age of consensual sex in New York is 17. And 16 in a lot of other places.
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> [Everyday Health: Trusted Medical Information, Expert Health Advice, News, Tools, and Resources](http://www.livestrong.com/article/12483-age-consensual-sex/)

Moral, as in “if you call my daughter again I’ll turn you into a eunuch and air drop you into the jungles of Brazil” moral.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/54 "2008-12-22T20:59:10Z")

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This is all so depressing. In the 70’s, I loved Jackson’s music, idolized O.J. the athlete and thought Allen’s movies were funny as hell. There is nothing to celebrate here.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/55 "2008-12-22T21:24:41Z")

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> [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#):
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> :smack: People _still_ believe this? How many times does this have to be debunked?

I care so little about MJ that I don’t care of the stories are bunked, de-bunked, un-bunked, or re-bunked.

I commented just 'cause he’s on my Death Pool list, and was well before this last ditty came out.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/56 "2008-12-22T21:29:29Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> This is all so depressing. In the 70’s, I loved Jackson’s music, idolized O.J. the athlete and thought Allen’s movies were funny as hell. There is nothing to celebrate here.

Well, until last month none of them had been convicted of any crime…and of course OJ is innocent and was set up by corrupt cops.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/57 "2008-12-22T21:31:43Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> I care so little about MJ that I don’t care of the stories are bunked, de-bunked, un-bunked, or re-bunked.
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> I commented just 'cause he’s on my Death Pool list, and was well before this last ditty came out.

Well, he never had an iron lung. Never slept in a oxygen tent or any of that crap.

He donated a hyperbaric chamber and a bunch of other stuff to the Brotman Medical Center in Culver City which used to have a well-respected burn ICU. That’s where he was treated when he got a little frikaseed during that Pepsi commercial mishap that lit his lid on fire.

I don’t give a rat’s ass about the skinny little freak, but some urban legends refuse to die and this is a site about fighting ignorance.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/58 "2008-12-22T22:22:49Z")

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Woody Allen is a predator? He and Soon-Yi have been together over twenty years. Furthermore, when Mia got together with Frank Sinatra, she wasn’t all that much older than Soon-Yi when she first was with Woody and the age difference between the couples was about the same.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/59 "2008-12-22T22:26:41Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Woody Allen is a predator? He and Soon-Yi have been together over twenty years. Furthermore, when Mia got together with Frank Sinatra, she wasn’t all that much older than Soon-Yi when she first was with Woody and the age difference between the couples was about the same.

When Mia got together with Frank she was 19 and had been on her own for two years. Furthermore, as far as I can tell, Frank never dated her mother or any member of her family.

When Woody met Mia, Soon-Yi was EIGHT. Repeat: SOON-YI WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD. It is common for pedophiles to get together with woman who have young children. I always wonder when he started to have sexual feelings towards Soon-Yi.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-needs-lung-transplant-might-be-dying/478305/60 "2008-12-22T22:28:56Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Woody Allen is a predator? He and Soon-Yi have been together over twenty years. Furthermore, when Mia got together with Frank Sinatra, she wasn’t all that much older than Soon-Yi when she first was with Woody and the age difference between the couples was about the same.

When Mia got together with Frank she was 19 and had been on her own for two years. Furthermore, as far as I can tell, Frank never dated her mother or any member of her family.

When Woody met Mia, Soon-Yi was EIGHT. Repeat: SOON-YI WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD. It is common for pedophiles to get together with woman who have young children. I always wonder when he started to have sexual feelings towards Soon-Yi.

ETA: Check your math. Woody & Soon-Yi have been together since 1992.

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