# Michael Jackson never got it. On a different note, neither Uri Geller. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023 "2003-11-19T02:01:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/41 "2003-11-20T03:16:25Z")
Isn’t Sneddon the one he wrote a song about on HIStory? ---
**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/42 "2003-11-20T03:52:35Z")
Yes, that’s right, **Guinastasia.** [http://www.lyricsdomain.com/13/michael\_jackson/d\_s.html](http://www.lyricsdomain.com/13/michael_jackson/d_s.html) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/43 "2003-11-20T04:36:51Z")
Who’s Sneddon? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/44 "2003-11-20T04:44:42Z")
Now, lets not be linkophobic or FOXphobic **World Eater** 😉 Tom Sneddon is the Santa Barbara County District Attorney, as per the Fox news article. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/45 "2003-11-20T05:00:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by GIGObuster \* > \*\*Now, lets not be linkophobic or FOXphobic **World Eater** 😉 > > Tom Sneddon is the Santa Barbara County District Attorney, as per the Fox news article. \*\* Ok, I understand how linkophobic is bad, but the other one? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![PlasticVirgil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@PlasticVirgil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlasticVirgil)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/46 "2003-11-20T13:34:48Z")
Is anyone else feeling a bit relieved that this is all going on? ( I mean, NOT relieved about what Jacko is allegedly doing to kids. Don’t get me wrong. Just relieved that finally, SOMETHING has come along to crack into the great, mysterious shroud that is Jackson’s existance) I feel like I’ve looked at Jackson as a walking timebomb for the past 6 years or so. You had the sense _something_ was going to happen - He would go completely mad, declare bankruptcy, morph into Latoya in broad daylight. Well, now that something is happening, and the law is looking to cart him off, I just have to confess I’m feeling a bit excited 'bout this all. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/47 "2003-11-20T13:40:21Z")
According to Uri Gellar on the Louis Theroux program about Jacko the other day, Michael Jackson is no longer talking to him, because he was the one who fixed up the interview with Martin Bashir. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/48 "2003-11-20T13:42:40Z")
CNN’s latest QuickVote: Are you shocked by the charges against Michael Jackson? Yes 7% 13029 votes No 93% 173980 votes Total: 187009 votes Where have those other 13,000 people been these last 5 years? ---
**Author:** ![PlasticVirgil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb9ed0/32.png) [@PlasticVirgil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlasticVirgil)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/49 "2003-11-20T13:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by PlasticVirgil \* > \*\* > > . . . .declare bankruptcy, . . . . > > \*\* Ick. Nevermind, according to this he is already 240 Million in Debt. Wish ~I~ could do that. > **[The Times & The Sunday Times](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/)** > > News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/50 "2003-11-20T13:45:35Z")
I have a feeling it’s all going to end badly. As in, murder-suicide or something. If Jacko was cornered, do you all think he might be nuts enough to kill himself, and or his loved ones? ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/51 "2003-11-20T13:57:52Z")
Other then being weird, what is Mr. Jackson a´ctually **guilty** of other then trying to help people? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Mac\_Guffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/2bfe46/32.png) [@Mac\_Guffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mac_Guffin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/52 "2003-11-20T14:21:59Z")
Well, there’s the whole alleged child molestation thing, but other than that… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/53 "2003-11-20T14:27:22Z")
Some food for thought that, also posted in the MPSIMS thread I started: > [@](#): > > [This is London](http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/7772290?source=Evening%20Standard) > Full details of the child abuse allegations facing Michael Jackson emerged today as it was revealed that the case being investigated by police centres on a 12-year-old boy suffering from cancer. > > Jackson, who is expected to surrender to police today, is alleged to have plied him with wine and sleeping pills at his Neverland ranch. > > Reports said the boy had been living at the Santa Barbara estate with his family when the alleged assaults took place. Jackson is said to have paid his medical bills and helped his family financially, even buying them a new car. > > He was introduced to Jackson as a “dying wish” as his condition deteriorated. When his cancer went into remission he was allowed to move on to the estate. Sources also said Jackson tried to buy off the family when they grew concerned at the nature of the relationship. > > “He bought them passports and planned to ship them off somewhere to South America,” a friend of the boy’s family claimed. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/54 "2003-11-20T14:40:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DeadlyAccurate \* > \*\*CNN’s latest QuickVote: > > Are you shocked by the charges against Michael Jackson? > > Yes 7% 13029 votes > No 93% 173980 votes > > Total: 187009 votes > > Where have those other 13,000 people been these last 5 years? \*\* Busy casting votes in polls that Saddam was directly linked to 9/11 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/55 "2003-11-20T15:23:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mac Guffin \* > \*\*Well, there’s the whole alleged child molestation thing, but other than that… \*\* Alleged being the key word. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that these charges are trumped up? Not only is a lot of simmilar charges in ordinary cases false, brought on by child psychologists, feuding parents or other reasons, but false accusations against celebrities (and they don’t get much bigger then Jackson) aren’t exactly uncommon in the US are they? “He’s weird, so he’s gotta be guilty” seems to be the reasoning here. Just imagine for a second that the charges are untrue, can you justify the attention this is getting and the things that are being said? I feel real sorry for the guy, “innocent until proven guilty” only seems to apply to non-weird people. ---
**Author:** ![crazy\_grady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dbc845/32.png) [@crazy\_grady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazy_grady)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/56 "2003-11-20T15:59:26Z")
Can anyone see Michael Jackson in prison? This is going to be very entertaining to watch in the coming monthes, to one year. Concerning the 20 million dollars, I would of accepted the settlement for the full 20 after taxes. Then, I would of hired an expert assassin for a high price to take him out. Jacko’s dead, my kid’s in therapy, and when he leaves therapy, he wont have to work for the rest of his life and he can do what he wishes. Where’s that kid now? He could write a book now and make even more money. I would love if JANET JACKSON would feed me sleeping pills and wine and molest me. I bet his brothers hate Michaal with a passion. He made it big time and they did not and he is losing it for being a boy loving pervert. Maybe those three kids will have a mother now. Does Michael Jackson fart? He seems to be someone who has never farted in his life. Is Michael Jackson a member of NAMBLA? Will Fred Phelps have something to say about all this? Was Lisa Marie Presley ever asked to wear a schoolboy uniform and put a sock in her pants? Maybe Michael Jackson can be the lead singer of Van Halen or INXS to make money for his defense? Maybe Jackson can hire Johnnie Cochran as a lawyer, and Cochran can exclaim in closing arguments “If the kid don’t fit, you must acquitt?” LA detective at Neverland, “Look! Size 11 Bruno Magli shoes!” lastly… Maybe if Gary Coleman was gay, shaved, loved Jackson, and made to wear Teletubbie clothes all day, we would not be having this conversation now. GRADY ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/57 "2003-11-20T16:20:04Z")
**Grady** , you got some issues. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/58 "2003-11-20T16:30:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mac Guffin \* > \*\*I have a feeling it’s all going to end badly. As in, murder-suicide or something. If Jacko was cornered, do you all think he might be nuts enough to kill himself, and or his loved ones? \*\* What do you think is going to happen? wavy lines… wavy lines… wavy lines… Michael Jackson sits in a large room on a round bed, dressed in red silk pajamas decorated with teddy bears and naked cherubs. A mildly sedated bubbles the chimp, dressed in red silk pajamas decorated with strangely phallic bannanas, drools and rocks back and forth before him. A heavily sedated Mr. Giraffe lays off to the side, his head laying on the bed with its long tongue splayed out. Michael addresses Bubbles: “You believe me, don’t you bubbles? You know I didn’t mean to hurt anyone right?” Bubbles drools. “Bubbles!! How … how … how could you belive them and not ME!!!” Bubbles drools. Michael removes his nose, cleans it off with a kleenex, and puts it back on. Michael turns to dear, unconscious Mr. Giraffe, his face strangely dry: “And you?” Mr. Giraffe, quite unsurpringly, doesn’t appear to do anything. Michael trys to frown, and succeeds in producing a few wrinkles near the corner of his mouth. He plucks a small bottle from his pocket, applies the contents to his eyes, and pauses several seconds for the solution to trickle down into tears. Michael addresses his loved ones for the final time: "You’ll see! You’ll see that I’m good when we get to never-never land! Just wait! wavy lines… wavy lines… wavy lines… Perhaps a bit harsh, but the man seems pretty isolated, delusional, and crazy (based on news reports and interviews). To his credit(!?) he doesn’t seem particularly violent, though. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/59 "2003-11-20T16:38:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by DeadlyAccurate \* > \*\*CNN’s latest QuickVote: > > Are you shocked by the charges against Michael Jackson? > > Yes 7% 13029 votes > No 93% 173980 votes > > Total: 187009 votes > > Where have those other 13,000 people been these last 5 years? \*\* Submerged in an African river? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/60 "2003-11-20T16:49:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Stoneburg \* > \*\*Alleged being the key word. Is it beyond the realms of possibility that these charges are trumped up? Not only is a lot of simmilar charges in ordinary cases false, brought on by child psychologists, feuding parents or other reasons, but false accusations against celebrities (and they don’t get much bigger then Jackson) aren’t exactly uncommon in the US are they? > > “He’s weird, so he’s gotta be guilty” seems to be the reasoning here. > > Just imagine for a second that the charges are untrue, can you justify the attention this is getting and the things that are being said? I feel real sorry for the guy, “innocent until proven guilty” only seems to apply to non-weird people. \*\* The victim in the first case was bought off for a reported 20 million dollars. the case was dropped because the victim refused to participate with the prosecution as a term of the settlement. La police and prosecutors still believe to this day that Jackson was guilty, based partially on the victim’s accurate description of Jackson’s genitalia. I don’t think he’s guilty because “he’s weird.” I think he’s guilty because, for fuck’s sake, \*he sleeps with little boys." Not only that but he fits every classic characteristic of a pedophile. Passive, child-like demeanor, lack of ability to have adult relationships (Two obviously fake marriages don’t count), a house full of stuff designed to be attractive to children, an indisputable fixation on young boys (and where are the _girls_, btw if he just “loves children” so much?) and let’s not forget, _he sleeps with little boys_. 40 year old men don’t sleep with little boys (fathers excluded) unless they want to fuck them. This guy not only walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, he’s got feathers and a bill. There is also, as yet, no monetary motive for this and the investigation seems not to have been initiated by a greedy family but by a mandated call from a mental health professional. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023.md?page=4)