# Michael Jackson never got it. On a different note, neither Uri Geller. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023 "2003-11-19T02:01:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/61 "2003-11-20T16:54:48Z")
Well said **DTC** Hey look a sequential post! Michael Jackson never got it. On a different note, neither Uri Geller. I’m being sexually harassed! ---
**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/62 "2003-11-20T20:31:17Z")
The first thing I thought when I heard about this was, “Thank God, now they’ll take his three kids away from him. I hope.” They’re young enough that maybe there’s a chance they could still grow up to be normal, if they were in a normal environment. Then I thought, “God, what if some other member of the Jackson family tries to get custody?” (Since the mom clearly doesn’t want them.) Does anybody out there have any idea what will happen to his kids? Is it a sure thing that they’ll be removed from his custody pending trial? Where would they go? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/63 "2003-11-20T20:31:36Z")
He’s also obsessed with kids, **Diogenes**. I was reading an article at Crime Library about pedophiles and the profile they gave fit Michael to a TEE. He talks about children as sent from God, innocent, pure, wonderful-it’s so freaking CREEPY. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/64 "2003-11-20T20:36:49Z")
No offense to **DtC,** but I should point out that lots of adults sleep with kids already – namely, their children. Maybe Michael’s just so messed up in the head that he _sincerely believes_ that him sleeping with little kids is as nonsexual and noncontroversial as that? Now, if we’ve got recordings of Michael Jackson asking his little playmates if he can touch them “in that _special_ way,” that’s a different matter… ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/65 "2003-11-20T20:52:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > **No offense to DtC, but I should point out that lots of adults sleep with kids already – namely, their children.** The problem is he’s sleeping with _their_ children as well, which last time I checked was illegal. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/66 "2003-11-20T20:57:33Z")
How the heck did he descend from being the world’s most beloved entertainer to a demented pedophile bearing a strong resemblance to Lon Chaney in the 1925 _Phantom of the Opera_? ---
**Author:** ![teela\_brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d9b06d/32.png) [@teela\_brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teela_brown)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/67 "2003-11-20T20:59:03Z")
A friend just e-mailed me a pic of Jacko sporting a snappy new pair of bracelets - it must have been taken within the last few hours. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/68 "2003-11-20T21:04:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*How the heck did he descend from being the world’s most beloved entertainer to a demented pedophile bearing a strong resemblance to Lon Chaney in the 1925 _Phantom of the Opera_? \*\* Some have suggested that Jacko was so traumatized by his father that he’s trying to be the exact opposite. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/69 "2003-11-20T21:11:58Z")
wavy lines… wavy lines… wavy lines… Michael Jackson perched high atop Elizabeth Taylor, wildly waving a gun and shouting to the police, “_Made it Ma! Made it to the top of the world!_” Then he fires a bullet into Elizabeth Taylor, who goes up in a tremendous fireball . . . wavy lines… wavy lines… wavy lines… ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/70 "2003-11-20T21:14:33Z")
. . . I was going to use the final scene in _Public Enemy_ when I remembered that one of the characters puts on a record of—I am not making this up—“I’m Forever Blowing Bubbles” . . . ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/71 "2003-11-20T21:15:24Z")
I see him ending up in a mental hospital. Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/72 "2003-11-20T21:27:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by rjung \* > \*\*No offense to **DtC,** but I should point out that lots of adults sleep with kids already – namely, their children. Maybe Michael’s just so messed up in the head that he _sincerely believes_ that him sleeping with little kids is as nonsexual and noncontroversial as that? > > Now, if we’ve got recordings of Michael Jackson asking his little playmates if he can touch them “in that _special_ way,” that’s a different matter… \*\* I said “fathers excluded” in my post. If Michael Jackson was a garbage man would anybody let him sleep with their kids? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Griffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_Griffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Griffin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/73 "2003-11-20T21:28:08Z")
Depends if he gets jailed this time. If he gets a long sentence that will screw him completely. if hhe gets off with it he will continue as if nothing happened and it was just some mad person trying to get money from him. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/74 "2003-11-20T21:29:35Z")
Jail could be the best thing to happen to him—maybe he’d _finally_ get some psychiatric help, and away from his yes-men. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/75 "2003-11-20T21:58:39Z")
I’m with **Diogenes**. > [@](#): > > Not only is a lot of simmilar charges in ordinary cases false, brought on by child psychologists, feuding parents or other reasons, but false accusations against celebrities (and they don’t get much bigger then Jackson) aren’t exactly uncommon in the US are they? I don’t know that “similar charges in ordinary cases” are often false. If this was GD, I’d ask for a cite there. False accusations against celebrities happen, but given Michael’s history, I don’t think you can just chuck this out the window. He apparently settled the other case for $15-$20 million because the kid in question correctly described him naked, which was a real bad sign. > [@](#): > > “He’s weird, so he’s gotta be guilty” seems to be the reasoning here. No, I think the reasoning is “this doesn’t even seem to be out of character for him, so he might be guilty.” Given his public comments about “why is it so wrong for me to sleep with children,” I don’t find that surprising. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/76 "2003-11-20T22:04:47Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m sorry, but any parent who would leave his or her kid alone with Jackson is looking for a payday. And should be hit hard about the face and neck. Ding! Ding! Ding! Though I would amend that statement to read that any parent who would leave his or her kid alone with ANYONE THEY DIDN’T KNOW AND TRUST 100% is looking for trouble, let alone someone who has publicly admitted to sleeping with children other than his own (and STILL thinks there’s nothing wrong with it despite the sage advice to the contrary from his own friends), who builds a kid’s fantasy place called “Neverland,” who has had more plastic surgery than Pamela Anderson, who has paid millions to settle prior allegations against him, who dangles infants from balconies, and who walks around like the Elephant Man with a sack cloth over his head. I honestly don’t know if Jackson is sexually inappropriate with children. I do know that he is abnormally preoccupied with them and that I would no sooner let my child stay with him than with with Anne Heche. > [@](#): > > When (the plaintiff’s 12 year old child’s) cancer went into remission he was allowed to move on to the estate. That’s all I need to know about these people. Your child’s cancer goes into remission so you ship him off to a freak’s house. Makes perfect sense to me. Michael Jackson may be a child molester, and that would be horrific. But there is one category of people who fall lower on the morality scale and the plaintiffs are it. I hope the millions of dollars they will ultimately get from Jackson is worth their son’s dignity and privacy. I’m sure this media blitz is doing wonders for their son’s health. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/77 "2003-11-20T22:16:23Z")
> [@](#): > > I honestly don’t know if Jackson is sexually inappropriate with children. I do know that he is abnormally preoccupied with them and that I would no sooner let my child stay with him than with with Anne Heche. What’d Anne Heche do? ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/78 "2003-11-20T22:19:45Z")
If Michael Jackson wanted to have sex without consequences with young boys he should have become a priest. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/79 "2003-11-20T22:59:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\* > If Michael Jackson was a garbage man would anybody let him sleep with their kids? \*\* He _is_ a garbage man. * * * She told me she loved me like a brother. She was from Arkansas, hence the Joy! ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2003, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023/80 "2003-11-20T23:17:18Z")
> [@](#): > > What’d Anne Heche do? She’s a certifiable nut. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jackson-never-got-it-on-a-different-note-neither-uri-geller/214023.md?page=5)