# Michael Jackson's daughter interviewed on "Ellen" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 15, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276 "2011-12-15T04:49:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/101 "2011-12-20T02:32:40Z")
> [@phreesh](#): > > I’m not one to threadshit, but… I’m not racist, but… ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/102 "2011-12-20T02:51:53Z")
I’m a doubter bas well. She seems like a nice kid but I’d imagine that her world is very controlled by people with a vested interest in Jackson’s legacy. ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/103 "2011-12-20T15:55:50Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m not racist, but… … I’m gonna go ahead and speculate on the race of a bunch of strangers. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/104 "2011-12-20T16:34:28Z")
> [@phreesh](#): > > … I’m gonna go ahead and speculate on the race of a bunch of strangers. That’s not racist, btw. I don’t see the big deal. These kids are, for better or worse, minor celebrities most likely on their way to major status. If they have talent, great. If they don’t, they’ll still be in the Paris Hilton mould. Gossipy speculation about celebrities is extremely common. That’s why this is in CS and not GQ. ---
**Author:** ![Omega\_Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7c8e57/32.png) [@Omega\_Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omega_Glory)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/105 "2011-12-20T16:39:43Z")
> [@phreesh](#): > > … I’m gonna go ahead and speculate on the race of a bunch of strangers. …because I’m capable of discussing race and phenotype without judgment. ---
**Author:** ![phreesh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@phreesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phreesh)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/106 "2011-12-20T16:46:50Z")
I agree it’s not racist, but Mr. Mace implied I was. I didn’t appreciate it. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/107 "2011-12-27T21:59:33Z")
I wonder if perhaps MJ chose a sperm donor that was also a patient at the dermatology clinic where he met Debbie Rowe? That might explain why the oldest kid has vitiligo. About 1/100 African American people have vitiligo, while only 1/1000 white people do. (Thus, my prior assumption that the oldest kid is likely Jackson’s biological offspring - it’s just damn unusual for a white kid to have vitiligo) But the odds get blurry real quick if he selected a donor from among people he might have bonded with at the dermatology clinic. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/108 "2011-12-27T22:17:58Z")
You’re right in that, that’s a possibility-- but as I mentioned previously in the thread, MJ repeatedly said that vitilgo ruined his life. I just can’t imagine him intentionally seeking someone out with that same disorder and intentionally giving it to his children. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/109 "2011-12-27T22:21:01Z")
> [@Sarabellum1976](#): > > I wonder if perhaps MJ chose a sperm donor that was also a patient at the dermatology clinic where he met Debbie Rowe? > > That might explain why the oldest kid has vitiligo. About 1/100 African American people have vitiligo, while only 1/1000 white people do. (Thus, my prior assumption that the oldest kid is likely Jackson’s biological offspring - it’s just damn unusual for a white kid to have vitiligo) But the odds get blurry real quick if he selected a donor from among people he might have bonded with at the dermatology clinic. Vitiligo is just as common in Whites as it is in Blacks (Cite: [1](http://www.medicinenet.com/vitiligo/article.htm#tocb), [2](http://www.niams.nih.gov/health_info/vitiligo/) ,[3](http://www.avrf.org/facts/vitiligo_questions.htm), [4](http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vitiligo/DS00586)) > [@](#): > > About 0.5 to 1 percent of the world’s population, or as many as 65 million people, have vitiligo. In the United States, 1 to 2 million people have the disorder. Half the people who have vitiligo develop it before age 20; most develop it before their 40th birthday. The disorder affects both sexes and all races equally; however, it is more noticeable in people with dark skin. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/110 "2011-12-28T07:15:39Z")
It’s not JUST their skin tone that is leading to skepticism over Jackson’s paternity but Jackson’s general freakiness on the issue of sex to the point that even masturbation for sperm would seem icky, his obvious hatred of his own appearance (vitiligo might explain why he lightened his skin but it had nothing to do with why he mutilated his nose, straightened his hair, was skeletal in build, abused drugs, etc.), and his many other psychoses. Having somebody else father his children would not seem the least bit out of character for him. ---
**Author:** ![AndyLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@AndyLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AndyLee)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/111 "2011-12-28T18:36:02Z")
Didn’t the littlel kid who played Oliver in the 60s film claim to be her father? ---
**Author:** ![jp97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jp97](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jp97)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/112 "2011-12-28T19:21:44Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > It’s not JUST their skin tone that is leading to skepticism over Jackson’s paternity but Jackson’s general freakiness on the issue of sex to the point that even masturbation for sperm would seem icky, his obvious hatred of his own appearance (vitiligo might explain why he lightened his skin but it had nothing to do with why he mutilated his nose, straightened his hair, was skeletal in build, abused drugs, etc.), and his many other psychoses. Having somebody else father his children would not seem the least bit out of character for him. I tend to believe the same as you but I once saw a Lisa Marie Presley interview with Oprah Winfrey in which she addressed her marriage to Michael. This was long after the marriage had ended. Lisa stated that her marriage to Michael was real - in every sense of the word. I still find it hard to believe, and I think Oprah did too, but I don’t know why LMP would lie about it long after the fact? During the same interview, when pressed by Oprah about why she thought Michael wanted to marry Lisa, Priscilla Presley stated something along the lines that her own personal opinion was that Michael wanted to have children and he wanted to have them with Lisa because she was the daughter of Elvis. If memory serves, LMP shut her mother up pretty fast after that remark. I’ll see if I can find a link. ---
**Author:** ![jp97](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jp97](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jp97)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276/113 "2011-12-28T19:32:42Z")
Lisa Marie Presley and Priscilla Presley weigh in on her marriage to Michael Jackson in 2005: [Watch 4:10 - 5:20](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpXSP1xCLQU) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-jacksons-daughter-interviewed-on-ellen/606276.md?page=5)