# Michael Moore = ass.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 24, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688 "2003-03-24T03:16:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![DrLizardo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5fc32e/32.png) [@DrLizardo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrLizardo)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/261 "2003-03-27T20:52:22Z")

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Hmmm. [fair.org](http://fair.org)… I’m guessing we’re looking at just a SLIGHT bias here? Actually, after reviewing the site, I’m not guessing. MAJOR bias here. Sorta like shouting “Al Jazeera Proves Iraq War is Wrong!”

In other words, I ain’t buying that cite of third-hand-info. YMMV.

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**Author:** ![Halo13](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Halo13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Halo13)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2003, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/262 "2003-03-27T23:51:54Z")

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Moore is actually exceptionally intelligent and well informed for an American. Although he offers no solutions or alternative to the system we live in now.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/263 "2003-03-28T00:53:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Halo13 \*  
> \*\*… for an American. … \*\*

and this qualifier means what?

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**Author:** ![gex\_gex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/94ad74/32.png) [@gex\_gex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gex_gex)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2003, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/264 "2003-03-28T13:24:52Z")

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Problems Blacks encountered at polling places:

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> This disenfranchisement of Florida voters fell most harshly on the shoulders of African Americans. Statewide, based on county-level statistical estimates, African American voters were nearly 10 times more likely than white voters to have their ballots rejected in the November 2000 election.
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> Poorer counties, particularly those with large minority populations, were more likely to use voting systems with higher spoilage rates than more affluent counties with significant white populations… [e]ven in counties where the same voting technology was used, blacks were far more likely to have their votes rejected than whites.
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> African Americans had a significantly greater chance of being listed on Florida’s mandated purge list. The probability of names of African Americans appearing on the list in error was significantly greater than the likelihood of the names of whites being erroneously included on the purge list.
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> The state of Florida’s use of this purge list, combined with the state law that places the burden on voters to remove themselves from the list, resulted in denying countless African Americans the right to vote.

[http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch9.html](http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch9.html)

More first hand accounts here: [http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch2.htm](http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/vote2000/report/ch2.htm)

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/265 "2003-04-29T20:41:22Z")

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Test

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**Author:** ![Beagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/85f322/32.png) [@Beagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beagle)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/266 "2003-04-29T21:20:51Z")

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> This disenfranchisement of Florida voters fell most harshly on the shoulders of African Americans. Statewide, based on county-level statistical estimates, African American voters were nearly 10 times more likely than white voters to have their ballots rejected in the November 2000 election.
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> Poorer counties, particularly those with large minority populations, were more likely to use voting systems with higher spoilage rates than more affluent counties with significant white populations… [e]ven in counties where the same voting technology was used, blacks were far more likely to have their votes rejected than whites.

Lies, damn lies, [statistics.](http://www.insightmag.com/main.cfm/include/detail/storyid/158418.html)

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> …The new findings likely would be an interesting footnote to the Florida recount battles if they didn’t explicitly contradict the central claim of a hasty report by the heavily Democratic U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. The commission argued that blacks in general had been “nearly 10 times more likely to have their ballots declared invalid.” Lott says his findings established that this figure is impossible to verify…
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> …The commission determined that in 2000 approximately 11 percent of Florida voters were African-American, but that African-Americans cast about 54 percent of the 180,000 spoiled ballots there. The bottom line, widely reported on June 8 when the commission adopted the report, was that the ballots of blacks in Florida were targeted for invalidation. Print media made much of the commission’s finding of “widespread disenfranchisement and denial of voting rights,” with the implication that Republican Gov. Jeb Bush had defrauded blacks and Democrats to steal the presidential election for his brother George W.
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> But the new data show that if there was any deliberate effort to suppress votes, it was “not because of race but because of party,” Lott reported in a recent Los Angeles Times article. He reveals that a “wide range” of factors influence spoiled-ballot rates, including “education, gender, income, age, number of absentee votes, voting-machine type, ballot type and whether votes were counted at the precinct or centrally.” **But it is the “isolated fact of being a Republican that makes an African-American vastly more likely to have his or her ballot declared invalid” than by any other identifiable standard.** [bolding mine]

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**Author:** ![BF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@BF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BF)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-ass/163688/267 "2003-04-29T22:43:21Z")

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Yay!! Another spank Moore resurrection…  
Is **archiveguy** the official resurrector of dead threads?? hmmm…

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