# Michael Moore at the RNC **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 31, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348 "2004-08-31T02:16:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/1 "2004-08-31T02:16:45Z")
Oh, he’s loving this. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/2 "2004-08-31T02:21:32Z")
No! What channel, and what have I missed? ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/3 "2004-08-31T02:32:13Z")
He called him a “disingenous filmmaker”! That’s quite an insult, Mr. McCain! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/4 "2004-08-31T02:33:41Z")
On CNN– John McCain acknowledged his presence (calling him a disingenuous film-maker) The camera cut to him and the crowd booed and hissed for several minutes while he waved. Then they started chanting “Four More Years!” to which he responded with the “L” gesture. More booing. McCain tried to get his speech back on track and said “that phrase worked so well I’ll say it again… a disingenuous film-maker…” Cue _more_ booing and hissing. After a while, McCain was able to actually complete his sentence, which was about Iraq not being a peaceful, idyllic land, as he implied Moore implied in _F9/11_. It totally hijacked the speech-- I’m surprised they played to him so much. Urgh. Now they’re onto the endorsement by people who lost family on September 11th portion of the evening. I can’t look away. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/5 "2004-08-31T02:40:03Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > Urgh. Now they’re onto the endorsement by people who lost family on September 11th portion of the evening. I can’t look away. I guess local laws prevented them from actually digging up their corpses and slapping ‘Bush/Cheney’ stickers on 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/6 "2004-08-31T02:43:39Z")
What unbelievable rubbish. I mean, really. They’re making an issue out of a non-issue. Do they really think Democrats are against helping widows and orphans of people killed in the attacks on 9/11? Jingo all the way… ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/7 "2004-08-31T02:46:18Z")
Forgive me, but what does the L gesture mean? Why was Moore laughing at the phrase Disengenious filmmaker? I thought I read Moore’s lips saying 4 more months! ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/8 "2004-08-31T02:49:18Z")
In the morning, I do not generally watch TV, I listen to it. It is remarkable how different things are without the video. It sounded like a fine speech. I did pass through the living room and saw John McC at the podium before he began speaking. Gee, he looked nervous. How very human in this agent of genetically-engineered politicians. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/9 "2004-08-31T02:50:05Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Forgive me, but what does the L gesture mean? Extend your right hand, palm facing away from you and fingers pointing up. Fold in all but the index finger and thumb. Position your thumb so that it is perpendicular to your index finger. Viewed from opposite you, it looks like a capital “L” - the hand symbol for “loser”! ---
**Author:** ![supervenusfreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@supervenusfreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/supervenusfreak)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/10 "2004-08-31T02:50:56Z")
Have heard that the secret service has surrounded Moore, cutting him off from all others there to cover the convention. NPR was in mid interview with him and they cut it off. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/11 "2004-08-31T05:37:39Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Why was Moore laughing at the phrase Disengenious filmmaker? As long as the attention is focused on him, he can assuage his feelings of low self-esteem. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/12 "2004-08-31T06:04:01Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > As long as the attention is focused on him, he can assuage his feelings of low self-esteem. Yeah, rich, famous, successful, happily married, hero of millions, Academy Award winner with an outrageous hit film on his hands…Moore’s self-esteem is obviously in the dumper. Anyway, you all got it wrong. They were actually chanting “Four _Moore_ Years!” ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/13 "2004-08-31T06:17:56Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > As long as the attention is focused on him, he can assuage his feelings of low self-esteem. Whatever self-deception gets you through the night, babe. :wally ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/14 "2004-08-31T06:28:23Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Why was Moore laughing at the phrase ‘disingenuous filmmaker’? Actually, I think Mike was laughing \*with \* the phrase, not \*at \* it. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/15 "2004-08-31T06:31:26Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > Whatever self-deception gets you through the night, babe. > > :wally Well, listening to Moore rant about rich white men is about as compelling as watching Sally Struthers cry about starving people. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/16 "2004-08-31T06:40:18Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Well, listening to Moore rant about rich white men is about as compelling as watching Sally Struthers cry about starving people. So, you have issues with the obese. One can’t be overweight and be credible by what you’ve said. _Nice_. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/17 "2004-08-31T07:11:46Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > So, you have issues with the obese. One can’t be overweight and be credible by what you’ve said. > > _Nice_. Yup, send the obese to the death camps. That’s exactly what I was implying. Lighten up, man. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/18 "2004-08-31T07:19:15Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > Why was Moore laughing at the phrase Disengenious filmmaker? Because unlike right-wing pundits such as Limbaugh and O’Reilly, Michael Moore has enough self-esteem to be able to take a joke at his expense. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/19 "2004-08-31T07:23:02Z")
> [@vanilla](#): > > I thought I read Moore’s lips saying 4 more months! Yeah, I caught that as well. I thought it was pretty interesting he was singled out. I got the impression they must be pretty scared of him to do that. I also got the impression Moore thought it was funny as hell this giant collection of people who represent about half the the USA single him out because of one movie. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/20 "2004-08-31T07:27:37Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Yup, send the obese to the death camps. That’s exactly what I was implying. Lighten up, man. It’s called sarcasm. :wally [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348.md?page=2)