# Michael Moore at the RNC **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 31, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348 "2004-08-31T02:16:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/21 "2004-08-31T08:27:02Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > It’s called sarcasm. > > :wally And apparently lost on you as well. :rolleyes: :wally ---
**Author:** ![Wearia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/13edae/32.png) [@Wearia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wearia)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/22 "2004-08-31T17:09:01Z")
I think its suprising that one filmmaker is seen as such a big threat to the Republicans. A passing comment from McCain is one thing, but to be surrounded by SS and booed by the entire crowd. They’re letting one guy be such a big threat to them. They’ve thwarted the mass media but one independant if the worst thing since anthrax? ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/23 "2004-08-31T17:36:30Z")
But people might _believe_ him, **Wearia**. They might get swayed from the vision of ooey-gooey republicon goodness, and that simply cannot be. Dissenters are evil and must therefore be destroyed. I think Moore’s work is a little biased and uneven, but he’s a marketing genius. Letting the Republican party do his marketing was a stroke of brilliance. ---
**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/24 "2004-08-31T17:36:52Z")
I heard about this. Can someone give a more detailed description of what exactly happened? From what I’m given to understand, Moore was being interviewed when Secret Service people shoved him off to the side, saying something about there being too many people and it was a safety issue. Apparently this was peculiar because the majority of the people present at the time were Secret Service, so if there were really too many people there it would have made sense for them to clear themselves out of the area. I heard they wouldn’t let anyone talk to him after that. Fear is the mindkiller, and those people were apparently brain-dead. “L” for loser. Four more months. You gotta love it, despite that fact that Moore seems to be a really obnoxious person. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/25 "2004-08-31T17:56:55Z")
Seems to me that his only reason for wanting to be there would be to stir up shit. If he did that here, he would be called a troll. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/26 "2004-08-31T18:02:40Z")
> [@Ghanima](#): > > I heard about this. Can someone give a more detailed description of what exactly happened? > > From what I’m given to understand, Moore was being interviewed when Secret Service people shoved him off to the side, saying something about there being too many people and it was a safety issue. Apparently this was peculiar because the majority of the people present at the time were Secret Service, so if there were really too many people there it would have made sense for them to clear themselves out of the area. I heard they wouldn’t let anyone talk to him after that. This will surely show up in his next film. Sometimes I think falling on one’s sword is the national political pastime. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/27 "2004-08-31T18:12:11Z")
> [@Ghanima](#): > > Can someone give a more detailed description of what exactly happened? Here’s some press: > [@](#): > > Originally osted by **[CBS.com](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/31/entertainment/main639678.shtml)**: > Moore seemed to relish the attention, thrusting his arms over his head, laughing and saying, “Two more months.” > > Asked about McCain’s remarks, Moore said, “I can’t believe they’re dumb enough to bring up the film and help its box office.” > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **[the Seattle Post-Intelligencer](http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/188680_michael31.html)**: > > Moore, who is writing a column this week for USA Today, sat in a section set aside for the press, and the guards insisted that convention officials hold reporters at bay, said Ric Andersen, of the House of Representatives Press Gallery. The entire section was closed off. > > It was extremely disruptive," Andersen said. “A cop literally pushed me out of the section.” > [@](#): > > Originally Posted by **[The Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48292-2004Aug31.html)**: > > When Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) called him “a disingenuous filmmaker” during his speech, Moore said, “Thank you, John McCain.” > > No offense taken. Only dollar signs. > > “Hey, the film’s doing $120 million right now,” Moore said. “When McCain mentions it, I have a chance to do $150 million. It just creates more interest, more excitement.” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/28 "2004-08-31T21:57:23Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > Letting the Republican party do his marketing was a stroke of brilliance. No doubt that’s why he’s cracking up with all the attention. The **last** thing he wants the Republicans to do is **stop talking about him.** If I were him, I’d sure be amused that my enemies apparently still haven’t figured out that their obsession is **good** for me. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/29 "2004-08-31T23:51:33Z")
> [@gatopescado](#): > > Seems to me that his only reason for wanting to be there would be to stir up shit. If he did that here, he would be called a troll. Do you distinguish between protest and stirring up shit? This isn’t an attack, I’m just curious. ---
**Author:** ![Seven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Seven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Seven)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/30 "2004-08-31T23:55:03Z")
It’s my understanding McCain has gone on record sayng he hasn’t seen the film. :smack: :smack: :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/31 "2004-09-01T00:33:17Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > Well, listening to Moore rant about rich white men is about as compelling as watching Sally Struthers cry about starving people. Wouldn’t it be more like watching Karen Carpenter cry about starving people? ---
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/32 "2004-09-01T00:44:23Z")
Where can I stream a video?! I have always seen him as obnoxious as a person and can’t say anything for his film making since I haven’t seen any of his films but this is just too good! For any side, I do not care which side you are on, this just sounds brilliant. To have the most popular icon of the enemy at your organization’s national conference and then to have that icon_pointed out by both the crowd and speech maker_ , and have them respond as was described. I must see it! ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/33 "2004-09-01T01:04:58Z")
> [@ZebraShaSha](#): > > Where can I stream a video?! [Here’s a RealPlayer stream](http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=146). (Couldn’t find anything better.) ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/34 "2004-09-01T01:15:03Z")
The Republican convention is a stage-managed jamboree, a triumph of style over substance, where even apparently spontaneous moments are scripted. Statistics are used selectively to manipulate the massive media audience. It’s a sham. Michael Moore is in his element. ---
**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/35 "2004-09-01T01:43:49Z")
> [@Larry Mudd](#): > > [Here’s a RealPlayer stream](http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=146). (Couldn’t find anything better.) Actually listening to the interviews after the opening clip is a pisser. ---
**Author:** ![smartini](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/22d042/32.png) [@smartini](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smartini)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/36 "2004-09-01T02:48:25Z")
**Larry Mudd** mentioned that Moore was doing commentary for USA Today – I traveled for my work today, the only time I read USA Today – what luck. Moore’s piece today in The Forum (aka _Crashing the Party_ ) was his explanation of how the Republican Party is full of RINOs, Republican In Name Onlys. Fun article…made me smile. Also made me realize that the old saw which goes something like “Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line” is too close to true. There may be RINOs out there but they are in NYC toeing the party line this week. We have work to do. \ What the hey? There is grown man on TV now wearing an elephant trunk for a nose. And the world is watching :eek: \ [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2004-08-30-moore-gopamerica\_x.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2004-08-30-moore-gopamerica_x.htm) I promise to learn how to post articles better when I have time – hope this works here :o ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/37 "2004-09-01T02:50:55Z")
gatopescado: > [@](#): > > Seems to me that his only reason for wanting to be there would be to stir up shit. If he did that here, he would be called a troll. Oh please, he’s collecting material for his next film. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/38 "2004-09-01T03:20:07Z")
> [@kingpengvin](#): > > Actually listening to the interviews after the opening clip is a pisser. Thanks for adding this. I saw the incident last night (still have it on my Tivo), so didn’t think about clicking on a link of it, untill you added this. Oh. My. God. Those women will be really unhappy when they realize how they’ve been duped. If they ever pull their heads out of the sand, that is. > [@Attrayant](#): > > Oh please, he’s collecting material for his next film. Moore’s next film will be about health care. ---
**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/39 "2004-09-01T03:24:42Z")
> [@smartini](#): > > I promise to learn how to post articles better when I have time – hope this works here :o As one who has just learned how to do this, here’s how. 1. Copy the URL. 2. Click ‘Reply’. 3. Click the ‘Insert Hyperlink’ icon (that’s the blue globe thingie fourth from the right). 4. In the ‘Script prompt’ dialogue box, enter the words you want to appear in your post to direct folk to the link (e.g. “Here’s Moore’s report”). 5. In the next dialogue box that pops up, paste the URL. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2004, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348/40 "2004-09-01T03:31:46Z")
> [@Attrayant](#): > > gatopescado: > > Oh please, he’s collecting material for his next film. He’s neither “trolling” or collecting material. USA Today sent him to the RNC for commentary. Incidently, USA Today asked Ann Coulter to cover the DNC, but I believe that didn’t go so well… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-at-the-rnc/262348.md?page=3)