# Michael Moore cleans up his act!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520 "2004-12-01T16:58:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/41 "2004-12-02T04:13:15Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Think again. He said that Republicans were better _storytellers_.
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> Read: Liars.

Well, he did allow as to how the Pubbies story that ‘this man’ could protect them from terror attacks didn’t quite make sense to him, but he also said that the Democrats should have done a better job of making a good story about their candidate, which they (we) didn’t. So I didn’t read that as ‘liars.’

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**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/42 "2004-12-02T05:35:08Z")

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[Quicktime Video](http://homepage.mac.com/njenson/movies/moore112904.html).

I eagerly await the day [muttonchops](http://www.wildwestweb.net/cwleaders/Ambrose%20E.%20Burnside.jpg) come back in style.

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**Author:** ![GaWd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f08c70/32.png) [@GaWd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaWd)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/43 "2004-12-02T05:53:49Z")

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Thanks, Sleeping.

Roseweed, did you really not pick up on the sarcasm and the humor in his appearance? It seems mind-blowing that you wouldn’t, but considering your posting, maybe you’re not swift enough to catch the deadpan straight act he was putting on.

I, for one, thought it was damned funny. But I’m still :smack: :smack: over your dumbass reaction.

Sam

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/44 "2004-12-02T13:35:45Z")

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I’ve never seen a Michael Moore movie, but I’ve heard alot about them, and of course, I’ve seen many photos of him.

The video doesn’t even have sound for me and I could instantly tell that it was a joke. Pretty funny too.

How could this be seen as anything other than a spoof of the “republican look” is a mystery to me.

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**Author:** ![moi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@moi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moi)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/45 "2004-12-02T13:48:09Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> How could this be seen as anything other than a spoof of the “republican look” is a mystery to me.

I’ll take “Michael Moore is always in the wrong in some people’s eyes” for $1000, Alex.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/46 "2004-12-02T18:29:56Z")

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I loathe his work, but I was very impressed with his comments on the Tonight show. Looked reasonable too, but that’s not important.

Came across as someone who could be a serious political commentator, not some fringe ranter. And my guess is that this was (and will continue to be) his goal.

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/47 "2004-12-02T23:03:20Z")

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Michael Moore did alot for the Republican party, thanks 🙂

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/48 "2004-12-02T23:46:27Z")

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Wrong. John Kerry did a lot lot more for the Republicans. It did though took Giuliani to point that out.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/49 "2004-12-03T00:07:52Z")

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Rather a pity they can’t do anything for themselves.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/50 "2004-12-03T00:51:09Z")

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> [@capacitor](#):
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> It did though took Giuliani to point that out.

[Grammatical Nitpick] It _done_ did though took Giuliani to point that out. [/Grammatical Nitpick]

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/51 "2004-12-03T06:05:05Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Rather a pity they can’t do anything for themselves.

_Au contrare, mon ami._

**Everything** the Republicans do is for themselves, and themselves only. They frown on selflessness and charity and compassion as “bleeding heart” weaknesses, remember?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/52 "2004-12-03T06:23:07Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> How could this be seen as anything other than a spoof of the “republican look” is a mystery to me.

“Republican look”? He wore a fucking suit. _A SUIT_!!!

It could be seen as “he finally got tired of looking disheveled”.

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**Author:** ![malkavia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malkavia/32/5621_2.png) [@malkavia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/malkavia)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/53 "2004-12-03T06:25:37Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> “Republican look”? He wore a fucking suit. _A SUIT_!!!
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> It could be seen as “he finally got tired of looking disheveled”.

Didn’t you get the memo? Not only did they claim moral superiority, but they’ve also cornered the market on suit-wearing and hair-combing.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (ow, my heeead)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/54 "2004-12-03T06:30:06Z")

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I forgot that all the democrat congressmen are wearing birkenstocks and tye-dye t-shirts to work now.

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**Author:** ![roger\_thornhill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@roger\_thornhill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/roger_thornhill)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/55 "2004-12-03T06:37:27Z")

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Look, if Michael Moore takes a shower in the nude (or a bath, but I can’t imagine it would be quite as effective), you’ll have people saying that it’s his latest satire on the Emperor’s New Clothes. He appears on a talk show, so it must be his satire of the informalisation of a mediatised culture. He dons a baseball cap and it’s his satire of the synthetic personalisation of social constructivism.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/56 "2004-12-03T06:37:48Z")

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> [@malkavia](#):
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> Didn’t you get the memo? Not only did they claim moral superiority, but they’ve also cornered the market on suit-wearing and hair-combing.

Don’t smirk too hard – I’ve read a fair number of editorials that claim **The Incredibles** is “a red-state movie” because it dares to show ( **gasp!** ) an intact, traditional, family arrangement. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/57 "2004-12-03T06:58:08Z")

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> [@roger thornhill](#):
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> Look, if Michael Moore takes a shower in the nude (or a bath, but I can’t imagine it would be quite as effective), you’ll have people saying that it’s his latest satire on the Emperor’s New Clothes. He appears on a talk show, so it must be his satire of the informalisation of a mediatised culture. He dons a baseball cap and it’s his satire of the synthetic personalisation of social constructivism.

Amen. I’ve said some very passionate words about Mr. Moore, but for fuck’s sake, people… he _shaved_. Not. A big. Deal.

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**Author:** ![Ooner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c67d28/32.png) [@Ooner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ooner)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/58 "2004-12-03T07:05:00Z")

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People are focusing too much on his look and not enough on the interview. He looked so uncomfortable the entire time, he might as well have been naked. If a scruffy beard and baseball cap are the price I have to pay for a decent interview, I’ll take gross Michael Moore over the cleaned-up yet hopelessly nervous and awkward version any day.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/59 "2004-12-03T17:27:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _roger thornhill said_  
> Look, if Michael Moore takes a shower in the nude (or a bath, but I can’t imagine it would be quite as effective), you’ll have people saying that it’s his latest satire on the Emperor’s New Clothes. He appears on a talk show, so it must be his satire of the informalisation of a mediatised culture.

Don’t be an idiot. Clearly MM changing his complete look before an appearance on the most popular late night talk show was done to make some kind of a point. You may not give a shit but spare us the proud to be obtuse line o’ bull.

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**Author:** ![The\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Truth)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-cleans-up-his-act/277520/60 "2004-12-03T17:43:59Z")

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> [@Roseworm](#):
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> I guess he decided his radical, left-wing, disgusting slob image was not working. Fancy that.

**Michael Moore before** - Radical, left-wing, disgusting slob, obese liar and hypocrite.  
**Michael Moore after** - Suitwearing, clean shaven, obese liar and hypocrite.

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