# Michael Moore = Liar. Why? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 14, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240 "2004-06-14T04:15:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/301 "2004-07-05T19:11:00Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Perhaps some herbal remedies, some St. Johns Wort, some chamomile tea. Take a course in meditation. Maybe pretty soon, that would be good. Before November. Nah, I don’t need any of those sissy-liberal remedies. 😃 But I do worry that **your** head will implode come November, when the President is re-elected. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/302 "2004-07-05T19:17:18Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Applause is an entirely-standard way of releasing emotion at the conclusion of a performance. It also is a way of communicating - not necessarily to the performer/creator, but \*to each other in the audience \* - that they have experienced something worth applauding. It’s a short, simple way to start the more personal-level conversations that inevitably follow. Nope. It was just as stupid when Star Wars geeks applauded after _Attack of the Clones_. The fact that groups of geeks and MM fans are highly correlated is probably best left for another thread. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/303 "2004-07-05T19:19:49Z")
> [@Elvis](#): > > Lib, it would be so foolish to claim that one knows what the election result would be that the original comment you’re bashing Moore for can only be taken as pep-rally talk. But then, you’re looking for anything he’s said that’s factually wrong, aren’t you? That’s like asking me if I’m looking for slop at a pig farm. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/304 "2004-07-05T21:00:00Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > is the really stupid part. Who are they applauding? The projectionist? The usher? MM? He wasn’t there, so the point is what, exactly? That the audience is a bunch of Moore-on lemmings? Well, duh. BTW, with all this talk about sold-out theatres for every showtime, do the theatres have enough time to properly de-louse the seats between showings? And what do they do about the smell? Just wondering. What a stupid twat you are. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/305 "2004-07-05T21:10:21Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > What a stupid twat you are. Right. So which are you, a Star Wars geek or a MM geek? Both? ---
**Author:** ![UselessGit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/74df32/32.png) [@UselessGit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UselessGit)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/306 "2004-07-05T22:54:25Z")
7 pages and still nothing solid from the righties - this thread deserves a standing ovation. > [@some nut](#): > > That the audience is a bunch of Moore-on lemmings? How many _Moore-on lemmings_ have seen the movie so far? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/307 "2004-07-05T22:56:46Z")
Say, you any relation to Stupid Rat-Faced Git? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/308 "2004-07-05T23:10:29Z")
> [@UselessGit](#): > > 7 pages and still nothing solid from the righties So, you’re the monkey that _sees_ no evil. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/309 "2004-07-06T02:19:54Z")
Conservatives. The only group that could both criticize Moore’s film for being akin to Nazi prapaganda _and_ viewers of the movie for being smelly, louse infested vermin. Do you think they even recognize the irony? ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/310 "2004-07-06T02:28:07Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > Conservatives. The only group that could both criticize Moore’s film for being akin to Nazi prapaganda _and_ viewers of the movie for being smelly, louse infested vermin. > > Do you think they even recognize the irony? I dunno, when was the last time you had a shower, a job, and a haircut? Preferably all at the same time? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/311 "2004-07-06T03:03:51Z")
I’ll take that as either “No,” or “I don’t know what irony means so I’ll spew a moronic twatish response.” ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/312 "2004-07-06T03:09:09Z")
> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#): > > I’ll take that as either “No,” or “I don’t know what irony means so I’ll spew a moronic twatish response.” I seriously doubt that your feminist sisters will appreciate your throwing around the “twat” word. Am I a “cunt”, too? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/313 "2004-07-06T03:33:13Z")
I think you may misunderstand, **Milly**. In some dialects of English, the word “cunt” is hardly ever applied to a female person, it’s application is almost exclusively male. It certainly includes such concepts as “prick” and “asshole”, but contains and surpasses them both, with just a dash of “supercilious snot” as well. > [@milroyj](#): > > …Am I a “cunt”, too? That’s one of those “Hamlet” kinda questions. I pass. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/314 "2004-07-06T03:34:58Z")
If the shoe fits… ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/315 "2004-07-06T03:38:04Z")
Such lovely discourse coming from the sinister side of the aisle. “Twat” and all. Nice jobs, kids. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/316 "2004-07-06T03:57:23Z")
Well, hell, maybe you oughta try talking dirty, you sure can’t talk sense. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/317 "2004-07-06T03:59:08Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Well, hell, maybe you oughta try talking dirty, you sure can’t talk sense. Shut up, you stupid twat. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/318 "2004-07-06T04:02:59Z")
Definitely better! Just as much substance, many fewer words. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/319 "2004-07-06T04:12:49Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Definitely better! Just as much substance, many fewer words. Blow me, dearie. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2004, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/320 "2004-07-06T04:46:15Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > Nope. It was just as stupid when Star Wars geeks applauded after _Attack of the Clones_. The fact that groups of geeks and MM fans are highly correlated is probably best left for another thread. When I went to see **The Passion of the Christ** the applause at the end was loud and long. I guess all those people were stupid too, right? You guys are really reaching. Applause at the end of movies is normal in many places. It certainly is here in Chicago. If it’s a good movie, it’s weird if people _don’t_ applaud. I’ve seen 84 movies in the theater so far this year, and there was applause at maybe 3/4 of them. So, we have geeks, MM fans and religiosos in the stupid camp. Based on my experiences in the theater, you can also add Hollywood drama fans (Mystic River), musical fans (Chicago), small indie drama fans (Shattered Glass), small indie family film fans (Whale Rider), animation fans (Finding Nemo), fantasy fans (Lord of the Rings), raunchy comedy fans (Bad Santa), family comedy fans (13 Going On 30), foreign film fans (Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter and Spring), horror fans (Dawn of the Dead), bio documentary fans (Mayor of Sunset Strip), action fans (Kill Bill, Vol. 2), Charlie Kaufman fans (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind), and Cole Porter fans (De-Lovely), among many, many others. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240.md?page=17)