# Michael Moore = Liar. Why?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 14, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240 "2004-06-14T04:15:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
**Page:** 18

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/341 "2004-07-11T15:25:08Z")

</div>

OK Lib, I was unaware of the ruling.

> [@](#):
>
> He was likely hovering over a big sprawling buffet in his penthouse

I was referring to this dig at Moore’s eating habits as an ad hominem on your part.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2004, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240/342 "2004-07-11T15:47:07Z")

</div>

> [@Liberal](#):
>
> Same old bullshit. The very first one.
> 
> “Fox was the first network to call Florida for Bush. Before that, some other networks had called Florida for Gore, and they changed after Fox called it for Bush.”
> 
> Aside from being a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, that isn’t what the film said. The film said that the other networks changed their call because “well, if Fox says it, it must be the truth”.

Due respect, **Lib** , but that isn’t what the film says. It just says the other networks started following suit because they didn’t want to be the last with the story. It was a herd reaction. The film did not allege that the other nets thought there was anything special about Fox, they were just afraid they were missing a story.

> [@](#):
>
> How fucking stupid and desparate must a human being be to defend that sort of nonsense.

Please see the film before you make any more false characterizations of what is in it.

> [@](#):
>
> Furthermore, I doubt that Moore put up anything at all. He was likely hovering over a big sprawling buffet in his penthouse while minions of morons dug it all up and coded it into HTML.

Gratuitous and irrelevant. The fat joke is beneath you and you would be the first to chastise anyone who made such a crack about an obese conservative.

It’s irrelevant whether Moore personally posted the information on his website or not (and you don’t know that he **didn’t** , Lib), the point still stand that his facts check out, his film is accurate in its factual assertions and that is the point of this thread. After seven pages now we’re still waiting for someone to point out a single lie in F911.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore-liar-why/250240.md?page=17)