Michael Moore takes Ground Zero responders to Cuba

Interesting that said cite does not offer a linky-poo, but only advises that you can find the information on the back cover of his book. On the other hand, he’s affiliated with FrontPage.com, and, well, really, where else do you go to get straight, non-partisan facts?

The back cover of the book shows Moore’s Schedule D of Short-term Capital Gains and Losses, with his Halliburton purchase clearly listed, and Moore’s signature at the bottom. Moore hasn’t sued him, so I’m assuming it wasn’t forged.

Well, yeah, name like Michael Moore, sure couldn’t be two of those.

As I said, why wouldn’t Moore have sued him if it wasn’t really his signature?

Can random strangers walk in and request portions of others’ tax returns now? That’s scary. How did he get hold of this document?

I would say the DNFTT principle. It would have given Schweizer too much attention. I don’t see a reference to this (possibly invented)* issue in the past year and a half.

  • I mean seriously, if hack writers with opinions the president’s party favors are getting your tax return handed to them to defame you, what point is there in going to the courts? You’ll just give your enemy a pulpit and lose in a corrupt system.

Or it could be a forgery, or some other Michael Moore.

I’d imagine that since it’s for his foundation, that it may be a matter of public record (since it’s not-for-profit).

I guess all of those are possibilities.

This is not a cite. Sorry.

OK, if you say so.

Why should I care about Mike Moores character flaws? He’s not kin to me, not asking to borrow money. He’s presenting a case, a case I can check for veracity. Isn’t that the point? Its kind of like Al Gore and GW, if he’s telling me the truth, I could give a rat’s ass if he carpets his floors with baby harp seal pelts. That he personally harvested. With a chain saw.

There doesn’t seem to be any corroborating source at all for this story than world nut daily and similar sites. I’m calling bullshit on it.

One reason for Moore not to sue is that he doesn’t have any damages from it. If the smear has not hurt him in any way or cost him any money, then there’s nothing to recover. Plus there’s no reason to give this jack-off, Schweizer, any more publicity.
Anyway, even this highly dubious claim is only about his foundation, not him personally.

Also, even if Michael Moore was hypothetically proven to be a hypocrite that doesn’t make him wrong. This still amounts to an evasive ad hominem attack designed to divert attention away from the truth of his message.

The thing is, I just don’t believe that Moore has never purchased stock. He claims to keep his money in a savings account. Seriously, he would have to be the world’s biggest idiot to keep the kind of money he has in savings, and not invest it. It’s just not reasonable to believe that he would do such a thing.

A foundation that he runs.

I think, though, that this kind of hypocrisy speaks to what he really believes. I think a message is suspect when the preaching of it earns the messenger millions of dollars, and then he is also found not to live the message he is preaching.

You are aware, I trust, that occasionally public figures are lied about? Take Dennis Kucinich, people always talk about what a wimp he is, but did you know he used to take Chuck Norris’ lunch money? When they were in college? That’s a true fact, I heard it from a guy who knows his sister!

What does this mean? Why, that all of this vegan pacifism stuff from Dennis is just all bullshit, because no vegan pacifist wussy can kick Chuck Norris’ ass! I mean, Q.E.D.!

I’ve never bought stock either. I don’t believe in it. Just because you can’t conceive of people having other priorities besides naked greed doesn’t mean such people don’t exist.

Irrelevant since it’s not his money.

You haven’t demonstrated any hypocrisy.

The validity of a message has absolutely nothing to do with the character of the messenger. It is possible for the worst human beings to say things which are true. If you are aware of anything Moore says in his latest movie which isn’t true, pleae enlighten us. Claims that Michael Moore is a “hypocrite” are irrelevant even if true.

How do you define naked greed? If it is true that he doesn’t buy stock, then what does he do with all his money? If he hasn’t given away all but maybe $50,000 a year that he would need to live on at a modest level, then he’s as greedy as everyone else, stocks or no. If he doesn’t have an average-sized house, like all the rest of us live in, then he’s as greedy as everyone else. The idea that buying stocks is the only way to demonstrate greed is ridiculous.

He manages it, and if he makes money to give away to struggling artists by investing in corporations, then he has no business going around saying that those corporations are evil.

You don’t think that saying one thing, and doing another is hypocrisy?

I agree with you, a message is either valid or it isn’t. But if one wants to convince people of a message, they would do better to walk the walk.

I should add to this that it really isn’t worth arguing about, because I haven’t really said anything at all about his message. I just said I like to rip on him, and I meant personally…I just can’t stand the guy. Has nothing to do with his message, actually. It’s kind of like some of those right-wing radio guys. I may agree with them in principle on some issues, but I can’t stand to listen to them because they are such blustering pompous asses.

Ooh! The “liberal leftist elite”!

By the author of Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles In Liberal Hypocrisy.

(Someone wanting to “rip on” Michael Moore really needs to get some newer material.)

I wasn’t trying to hide the guy’s credentials or bias…I did link to his own website, after all, which clearly touts the book.

I just wanted to shine a spotlight on him!

In other news, three of the Ground Zero responders who went to Cuba with Moore are being investigated by the Treasury Department for violating the travel ban.