# Michael Moore

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181 "2017-05-21T23:25:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/21 "2017-05-22T03:35:17Z")

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I like Cory Booker. If I recall correctly, he also had Hurricane Sandy refugees (folks rendered homeless by the storm) come and live in his house until they could find other arrangements.

Moore? Not a candidate.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/22 "2017-05-22T04:22:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> With the exception of Al Sharpton, I can’t imagine any possible Democratic candidate who would be worse than Moore.

How about Trump? Hope could easily switch parties and top the list of worst possible.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/23 "2017-05-22T05:08:04Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> How about Trump? Hope could easily switch parties and top the list of worst possible.

While I’m sure some Republicans wish it would happen, the Democratic Party isn’t taking Trump back. He’s found his home.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/24 "2017-05-22T05:28:07Z")

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Corey Booker is also owned by the drug companies in New Jersey. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/25 "2017-05-22T06:33:38Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I know very little about Booker. I just skimmed his Wikipedia page. Guy lived in a troubled housing project while he was mayor of Newark. Holy cow. Also he’s a vegan. And he refuses to answer questions about his sexual orientation on principle. Seems like a cool dude.

That’ll play well with the tards in methland.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/26 "2017-05-22T13:50:03Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> I’d like to think the electorate has learned a lesson about electing someone who is wildly inexperienced and completely unprepared for the duties of the office.

Yep. That’s why Trump was elected. We suffered through eight years of Obama’s incompetency and said enough.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/27 "2017-05-22T14:40:33Z")

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> [@CHealy7](#):
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> Am I alone in thinking this man is in the catbird seat for the 2020 Democratic nomination?

Let’s just say you’re in no great danger of being trampled to death if the room catches on fire…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/28 "2017-05-22T14:53:38Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Yep. That’s why Trump was elected. We suffered through eight years of Obama’s incompetency and said enough.

I realize you don’t like hearing this, but it is the truth: Barack Obama did an excellent job as President. And he did it with class and style.

Another thing that is true is that the current holder of the presidency is a fuckstick who hates America. He has already made America a worse country by defiling the position, and it is not realistic to expect anything other than more degradation of America as long as he stays in office.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/29 "2017-05-22T14:56:54Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I realize you don’t like hearing this, but it is the truth: Barack Obama did an excellent job as President. And he did it with class and style.

But he was black and he let Muslims into the US despite the fact that Muslims make right-wingers cry.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/30 "2017-05-22T16:07:16Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> In other words, “he thinks he’s better than us!!”
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> Seriously, I’ll have to read about him. Highly educated, youngish guy who has spent his life in public service. That worked out pretty well last time we tried it.

I’m biased against Booker after reading The Prize, which had a pretty negative portrayal of him.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/31 "2017-05-22T16:07:39Z")

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I was wondering if there was another Michael Moore I didn’t know about. One who was actually a politician.

Who would seriously consider MM for president? I’d rather vote for the homeless guy that lives in a van down by the river. I’d make a better president than Moore.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/32 "2017-05-22T16:09:55Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Booker lost some credibility from progressives due to his vote against allowing importation of pharmaceuticals from Canada.
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> Seeing how progressives are a major force in the democratic primary (probably 1/3-1/2 of voters) that will cause him some problems.

Only progressives who perhaps read headlines and not articles.

He objected to lower testing than FDA standards in that bill, but voted yes on the next one that dealt with that issue.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/33 "2017-05-22T16:10:33Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> That’ll play well with the tards in methland.

Please do not use the slur “retard” or variants in this fashion.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/34 "2017-05-22T16:13:17Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I was wondering if there was another Michael Moore I didn’t know about. One who was actually a politician.
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> Who would seriously consider MM for president? I’d rather vote for the homeless guy that lives in a van down by the river. I’d make a better president than Moore.

So, in order:

Homeless guy in van  
**Just Asking Questions**  
Michael Moore  
Donald J. Trump

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/35 "2017-05-22T16:24:58Z")

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> [@CHealy7](#):
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> Am I alone in thinking this man is in the catbird seat for the 2020 Democratic nomination?

I suspect you are, but I would be delighted to be incorrect.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/36 "2017-05-22T16:29:27Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Michael Moore would be even less electable than Trump, and that’s saying something.

Of all the complaints against Donald Trump that would hold some validity, the idea that he is not electable does not seem to be among them.

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**Author:** ![CHealy7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CHealy7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CHealy7)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/37 "2017-05-22T16:33:41Z")

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So, the general consensus is that it’s going to take much more than Moore?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/38 "2017-05-22T16:36:35Z")

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> [@CHealy7](#):
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> So, the general consensus is that it’s going to take much more than Moore?

Yeah, and that’s a pretty low bar still.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/39 "2017-05-22T17:10:16Z")

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As much as I love and respect Michael Moore and as much pride as I feel when I see him in his Spartan cap, he is in no danger of running for president and even less danger of winning. He should stick to doing what he does best, shining his light on the corporate cockroaches and crooked politicians that steal so much from all of us.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2017, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/40 "2017-05-22T17:19:19Z")

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Moore is a master of cherry-picking or misleading.

I recall reading a passage in his book,\* Stupid White Men\*, discussing the 2000 election, in which he said (if I quote right): “Even sadder were the 200 million of us who did not vote for Bush. In a country of 250 million, I’d say that makes us the majority” - neatly omitting, of course, the fact that _by that logic, there were 200 million that did not vote for Gore, which is also a majority in a country of 250 million._

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