# Michael Moore

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 21, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181 "2017-05-21T23:25:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/101 "2017-05-29T03:01:18Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> He’s imitation Obama.
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> Well, not really, but that’s how a lot of people will see him. Not an actual imitation, just a substitute, like putting in pollock when the recipe called for crab.

He’s even more well-educated (and also played football at Stanford), looks more “Hollywood”, and is a hell of a lot more of a friendly, networking schmoozer than Obama ever was.

Plus, he’s had more relevant experience in government and can’t be so easily boogiemanned as a secret Kenyan Muslim with a funny name. And finally, he’s actually capable of convincingly reaching across the aisle.

In short, I think he actually meets your requirement of being able to convey the level of confidence of an incompetent madman.  
ETA: Shit, let’s be real, he makes the sauve Obama look like Urkle.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/102 "2017-05-29T05:41:59Z")

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I don’t think the problem was ever that Obama wasn’t smart enough, or charismatic enough, or didn’t do enough to reach across the aisle.

Obama spent his terms enjoying zero compromise from the GOP, constantly needing to defend himself against nonsense like the birther thing, and firefighting ignorance because of the way US politics is currently set up. The GOP right now puts party over country, and embraces (actual) fake news, to a far greater extent than the dems.

But who knows how things will be in 2020? Trump’s tenure could be disruptive enough that the landscape will look very different.

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**Author:** ![CHealy7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CHealy7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CHealy7)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/103 "2017-05-29T13:49:13Z")

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I don’t know much about Booker; is it fair to say he’s smarter than the average bear?

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/104 "2017-05-29T20:13:57Z")

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Maybe. Not as quick on his feet, though.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/105 "2017-05-29T21:43:03Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Maybe. Not as quick on his feet, though.

True, he wasn’t one of the quickest TE’s, [but he had some moves](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lj9RGepksl8).

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/106 "2017-05-29T22:37:34Z")

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Perhaps the OP could request a thread title change to “Michael Moore and Corey Booker.”

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/107 "2017-05-29T23:20:16Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Perhaps the OP could request a thread title change to “Michael Moore and Corey Booker.”

A forum change would work better. The current title in this forum is… _just no_, and the your suggested title in general is… _just NO_! The next thing you know, FOX will be citing you as the source for insinuating an affair between them. 😃

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**Author:** ![CHealy7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CHealy7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CHealy7)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/108 "2017-05-30T15:14:01Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Perhaps the OP could request a thread title change to “Michael Moore and Corey Booker.”

Not sure of the protocol for doing that here but if the mods are watching they can consider the request made.

TBH I think this has probably run its course anyway.

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**Author:** ![CHealy7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@CHealy7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CHealy7)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/109 "2019-01-03T23:04:59Z")

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Am I still the only person here who believes this man’s candidacy could catch fire?

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/110 "2019-01-03T23:43:36Z")

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> [@CHealy7](#):
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> Am I still the only person here who believes this man’s candidacy could catch fire?

Pretty much.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/111 "2019-01-04T02:23:41Z")

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> [@CHealy7](#):
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> Am I still the only person here who believes this man’s candidacy could catch fire?

Has something changed to change the minds of the many who didn’t agree with you the first time?

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/112 "2019-01-04T04:12:22Z")

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Well, he hasn’t announced yet, and the stories about one of the first big Democratic mix-ups haven’t been written yet, but there is already a super-PAC with 4 million raised (out of 10 million planned) to support \*\*Cory Booker’s 2020 run. \*\*Sanders and Warren will raise all their money talking about how Booker’s was raised for him.  
[https://www.thebeatdc.com/blog/2019/1/3/super-pac-launched-to-support-cory-booker](https://www.thebeatdc.com/blog/2019/1/3/super-pac-launched-to-support-cory-booker)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/113 "2019-01-04T04:48:14Z")

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How long has it been since Michael Moore has been at all relevant for anything?

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/114 "2019-01-04T04:50:24Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Has Moore ever even expressed the slightest interest in the position?

He’s not interested in holding public office, period.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/115 "2019-01-04T09:52:25Z")

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While we’re talking celebrity fantasy politics, I’d enjoy Cenk Uygur having a run.

Not that I agree with him on everything, or think he’d have a realistic chance. But someone like him is what we in general – and democrats in particular – need in the current political climate; plain-speaking and calling people on their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/116 "2019-01-04T14:51:00Z")

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If we’re going that route, then I’d like to see George Carlin in public office. Yeah, he’s somewhat past his peak nowadays, but he could probably still out-debate Trump.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/117 "2019-01-04T14:59:31Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> If we’re going that route, then I’d like to see George Carlin in public office. Yeah, he’s somewhat past his peak nowadays, but he could probably still out-debate Trump.

Even if this is fantasy picks, we should probably stick with people who haven’t been dead ten years.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/118 "2019-01-04T15:40:22Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Even if this is fantasy picks, we should probably stick with people who haven’t been dead ten years.

I’m pretty sure **Chronos** knows he is dead…and _still_ believes he can out-debate Trump.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/119 "2019-01-04T15:50:17Z")

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I figured he might but it was just kind of weird that when someone suggested a currently active political commentator Chronos replies “If we’re going that route, how about a dead comedian?”.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moore/787181/120 "2019-01-04T16:05:38Z")

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I did acknowledge that he was past his peak.

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