# Michael Moore's "October Surprise" **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 19, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060 "2016-10-19T19:54:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/1 "2016-10-19T19:54:38Z")
Michael Moore has released what he calls his “October Surprise” - his latest film, _Trumpland_, which appears to be a film version of his one-man show of the same name. Why do I have the feeling that all of his talk up to this point that he was fairly certain Trump would get elected was just an act, so when he released the film and then Clinton gets elected, he can take at least some credit for it? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/2 "2016-10-19T20:04:49Z")
I think this is not really an “October Surprise”, it’s more along the lines of “HEY! please pay attention to me and then I can pretend that I’m still relevant!” ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/3 "2016-10-19T20:07:28Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Why do I have the feeling that all of his talk up to this point that he was fairly certain Trump would get elected was just an act, so when he released the film and then Clinton gets elected, he can take at least some credit for it? You have that feeling because Michael Moore is a dick. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/4 "2016-10-19T21:14:52Z")
so, none of you have seen it? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/5 "2016-10-19T21:25:40Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > so, none of you have seen it? It premiered yesterday in one theater afaik, so almost no one has. But as the reviews seem to indicate it’s a clear pro-Hillary thing, I don’t see how that invalidates the above speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/6 "2016-10-19T22:03:16Z")
Here’s the New York Times [review](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/20/movies/review-michael-moore-in-trumpland.html). Supposedly it’s far more pro-Hillary than anti-Trump. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2016, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/7 "2016-10-19T23:55:14Z")
I’m a solid lefty and I think Michael Moore is a dick. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/8 "2016-10-20T00:08:34Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Michael Moore has released what he calls his “October Surprise” - his latest film, _Trumpland_, which appears to be a film version of his one-man show of the same name. > > Why do I have the feeling that all of his talk up to this point that he was fairly certain Trump would get elected was just an act, so when he released the film and then Clinton gets elected, he can take at least some credit for it? I’m guessing it has more to do with $$$. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/9 "2016-10-20T00:54:38Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m guessing it has more to do with $$$. Really, if this was about the money he would have rolled it out more than 3 weeks before the election. Moore cemented himself as a dick in my mind with that stunt he pulled when he won “best documentary” years ago but I have to think this is just him trying to use his soapbox to support Hillary. She’s well ahead right now so it’s kind of ludicrous to think he can claim credit for her win and he only has 3 weeks to make money off it. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/10 "2016-10-20T04:37:41Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I’m a solid lefty and I think Michael Moore is a dick. If it ever becomes a poll question, I’m with you. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/11 "2016-10-20T05:22:53Z")
This looks like an “October surprise” in the same vein as the “October surprise” Trump unveiled back in 2012, when he offered to give $5 million to a charity of Obama’s choice if he released his college records. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2016, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-moores-october-surprise/769060/12 "2016-10-20T07:19:52Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Moore cemented himself as a dick in my mind with that stunt he pulled when he won “best documentary” years ago but I have to think this is just him trying to use his soapbox to support Hillary. I still haven’t forgiven him for endorsing Ralph Nader.