# Michael Savage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047 "2019-11-27T03:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/21 "2019-11-27T05:54:04Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > That’s your argument, “they do it too!” ? > > Not very convincing, dude. Yeah. While I definitely don’t deny that some left-wing activists like Michael Moore also promote highly partisan viewpoints, I think the OP may have failed to grasp the specific irony of praising Michael Savage for decrying “loss of social cohesion” when Savage himself is one of the most aggressively partisan and divisive pundits out there. Even if you believe Savage is right about some other things, how can you admire his views on “loss of social cohesion” when they so clearly indicate that he’s either got his head way up his ass or is a raging hypocrite, or both? It’d be like praising Donald Trump for criticizing the tendency of public figures to tell too many lies. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/22 "2019-11-27T07:12:44Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > A sense of belonging. > > A sense that Americans have a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith. Absolutely. It is only through sense of belonging, trust, strength and bond of honor that the glorious American republic will rise up to overthrow the chains of bourgeois capitalism! All power to the United States. Peace to the People. Land to the peasants. Can I just note your grammar is really coming along nicely. Have you been practising? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/23 "2019-11-27T07:20:34Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Absolutely. It is only through sense of belonging, trust, strength and bond of honor that the glorious American republic will rise up to overthrow the chains of bourgeois capitalism! All power to the United States. Peace to the People. Land to the peasants. > > Can I just note your grammar is really coming along nicely. Have you been practising? No, he is real American. He loves the baseball. He spent many American afternoon in baseball place watching ball get hit and run. GO YANKEES ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/24 "2019-11-27T08:00:45Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > He is rightwing, yes. > > What makes a person intelligent in your opinion? Well, for starters, not constantly spouting a bunch of crazy nonsense about nearly any given subject. The man is a homeopath who supports Donald Trump and denies climate change (I wrote this one before even bothering to check if it was true, because this is basically every republican pundit, and yes, I’m right). That’s three strikes on the “crazy nonsense” scorecard. What the fuck makes him intelligent in your view? > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I think Savage is rude and nuts, but he makes good points about society. America is losing social cohesion of community. I wonder if this has anything to do with extreme right-wing pundits spreading insane propaganda that [turns people into bigoted xenophobic monsters](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/apr/12/fox-news-brain-meet-the-families-torn-apart-by-toxic-cable-news). ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/25 "2019-11-27T08:14:10Z")
Has anyone heard anything about an upcoming grit shortage? I hear China’s gonna cut their exports. Thank God we have President Trump, I’m certain that Hillary would have sold America’s gumption mines to the Russians! CMC fnord! ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/26 "2019-11-27T08:24:15Z")
Michael Savage vs Dan Savage. Discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/27 "2019-11-27T08:49:30Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Michael Savage vs Dan Savage. Discuss. I’d say that any contact between the two would lead to a roughly 3 gigaton explosion (assuming 75 kg for the lighter of the two). ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/28 "2019-11-27T09:22:56Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I think Savage is rude and nuts, but he makes good points about society. America is losing social cohesion of community. America has long been proud of having no such thing. Immigrant communities have much more social cohesion (in some cases, forced by the rejection from the not-so-receiving country) than Standard Americans, and these more than Mythological Americans. > [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Michael Savage vs Dan Savage. Discuss. My money’s on Dan. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/29 "2019-11-27T09:50:32Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 😕 😕 “Vigor”? I think you’re going to have to explain exactly what it is you’re talking about. It may seem obvious to you that America is suffering from a loss of “faith, vigor, valor”, but that sounds absolutely meaningless to me (unless by the “faith” bit you mean that more Americans are identifying as non-religious nowadays, which I agree is factually true). I believe he’s referring to the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/30 "2019-11-27T09:53:33Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Michael Savage vs Dan Savage. Discuss. > **[Michael Savage](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_Savage)** > > Not to be confused with Dan Savage, Adam Savage, or "Macho Man" Randy Savage. Vs. > **[Dan Savage](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dan_Savage)** > > Dan Savage (1964–) is the author of the weekly sex- and relationship advice column Savage Love. Unlike many advice columnists who might encourage people to put their own needs aside for the sake of saving a relationship, Savage often tells people... ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/31 "2019-11-27T10:07:43Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > I’d say that any contact between the two would lead to a roughly 3 gigaton explosion (assuming 75 kg for the lighter of the two). Good answer, but I’m afraid I’ll have to mark you down for not showing your work. > [@snfaulkner](#): > > [Michael Savage - RationalWiki](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_Savage) > > Vs. > > [Dan Savage - RationalWiki](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dan_Savage) Plagiarism is bad enough, but you’ve not even gone to the effort of trying to cut and paste into an answer. See me after class. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/32 "2019-11-27T10:12:26Z")
Dan Savage taught me there’s nothing wrong with expecting a relationship that’s sexually fulfilled. Mike Savage taught me there’s nothing wrong with being an offensively awful bigot for much of the country. One of these helped me a lot. The other depresses me greatly. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/33 "2019-11-27T10:24:36Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Good answer, but I’m afraid I’ll have to mark you down for not showing your work. > > Plagiarism is bad enough, but you’ve not even gone to the effort of trying to cut and paste into an answer. See me after class. Man, im just auditing this class. Get off my back! ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/34 "2019-11-27T10:55:28Z")
Mistaking Mr. Weiner for an “intelligent” person speaks poorly of your discernment. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/35 "2019-11-27T11:07:16Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Has nothing to do with race Sorry, some of those durn librul spies got hold of a few of the Seekrit Decoder Rings. They were able to translate Mr. Weiner’s usage of the term “social cohesion” into standard English. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/36 "2019-11-27T11:09:03Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > Its about faith, vigor, valor. The explanation for how these principles result in undying devotion to the golf-cart-borne physical embodiment of the Seven Deadly Sins known as Napoleon Boneyspurs ought to be most interesting… ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/37 "2019-11-27T12:06:12Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > He is rightwing, yes. > > What makes a person intelligent in your opinion? First and foremost, an intelligent person knows the limit of their own knowledge. Savage is just another self-proclaimed “smartest guy in any room” who believes the stupidest shit because he thinks if a “smart” guy like him believes it, it must be true. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/38 "2019-11-27T12:17:49Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > Good answer, but I’m afraid I’ll have to mark you down for not showing your work. Assume a matter-antimatter explosion. 1 gram of antimatter has a explosive yield of 40 kilotons of TNT. Taking a mass of 75 kg (as only the lighter of the two will undergo a full reaction), that’s 40,000 tons X 75,000 grams = 3,000,000,000 tons, or 3 gigatons of TNT. Better? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/39 "2019-11-27T13:08:26Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Dan Savage taught me there’s nothing wrong with expecting a relationship that’s sexually fulfilled. > > Mike Savage taught me there’s nothing wrong with being an offensively awful bigot for much of the country. > > One of these helped me a lot. The other depresses me greatly. What has Randy “Macho Man” Savage taught you? ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/40 "2019-11-27T13:15:09Z")
I’m not going to get into this Savage guy’s philosophical rhetoric, which I assume is the usual right wing bullshit shit sandwich nonsense that his stupid listeners eat up with a grin I’ll just say that I have a PhD. I know literally thousands (and I mean literally, not figuratively) of other people who have PhDs in a dizzying array of academic fields. Some of them are goddam morons. Most are at least competent in their areas of expertise (but not all!), but having a narrow area of knowledge does not make you intelligent. You don’t have to be that smart to get a PhD. You just need to be very persistent. This guy sounds like a moron with a PhD. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047.md?page=3)