# Michael Savage

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047 "2019-11-27T03:27:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/41 "2019-11-27T13:22:53Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> He is rightwing, yes.
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> What makes a person intelligent in your opinion?

Not being right wing.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/42 "2019-11-27T13:39:54Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> What has Randy “Macho Man” Savage taught you?

To snap into a Slim Jim?

Hey, it’s far more valuable than what Michael Savage has taught me. I’ve heard his show. If you are able to listen to five minutes of it and still think that he’s smart, you’re one of the biggest dumbfucks to ever post here.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/43 "2019-11-27T13:59:00Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> What has Randy “Macho Man” Savage taught you?

That Slim Jims are fucking awesome. 😃 Which places him slightly below Dan and way above Mike. I think Adam might be the best Savage, though, in no small part because of [this tweet](https://twitter.com/donttrythis/status/1054171597425147904).

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/44 "2019-11-27T14:12:59Z")

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I’m a little confused by people who see a board with the expressed purpose of Fighting Ignorance, take the trouble to choose a name, join, and compose posts, then start their own thread… knowing that their Spreading Ignorance isn’t going to do any good.

Do they not read a few threads first and realize this place is predominantly Smartypantses?  
(I do realize this OP could just be someone who wants to ‘rile dem libs’, who’s possibly been here before… but my point applies to decades of predecessors)

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/45 "2019-11-27T14:20:29Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> What has Randy “Macho Man” Savage taught you?

That wrestling fans love them some Village People?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/46 "2019-11-27T14:32:23Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> A sense of belonging.
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> A sense that Americans have a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith.
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> Those things have been lost since the 1990s.

> **[American Civil War](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War)**
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> Union victory
> 365,000+ total dead
> 290,000+ total dead

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/47 "2019-11-27T14:34:51Z")

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As a native-born Mainer, I can say: this is exactly what I expect out of a Yankees fan.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/48 "2019-11-27T14:57:55Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> To snap into a Slim Jim?
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> Hey, it’s far more valuable than what Michael Savage has taught me. I’ve heard his show. If you are able to listen to five minutes of it and still think that he’s smart, you’re one of the biggest dumbfucks to ever post here.

\<macho man\> Oh YEAHHHHHH!!! \</macho man\>

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**Author:** ![2Bits](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/e95f7d/32.png) [@2Bits](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2Bits)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/49 "2019-11-27T15:34:38Z")

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“Doc” Savage had a lot of vigor (and for that matter, vim!)  
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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/50 "2019-11-27T15:41:54Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I don’t know, but right wingers eat that shit up. The left isn’t immune to it, by any means, but right wing loons seem to have had a lot more success peddling it - almost all these shrieking demagogues like Savage have a major side-line in snake oil.

Not really the point I was trying to make. Kimstu said, Savage’s endorsement of homeopathy doesn’t speak well for his intelligence. Yankees 1996 Champs responded specifically to that comment, quoting it, by saying yes, Savage is right wing: as if the only thing wrong with supporting homeopathy were that he thinks Kimstu perceives it as a right wing position. I was trying, apparently not very successfully, to point out that Champs’ answer is a nonsequitur.

FWIW, the homeopathy-favoring people I know are mostly far left. I’m not surprised to hear that it’s gone in for by multiple sides, however.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/51 "2019-11-27T15:58:37Z")

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I’ll just point out, here, that in a matter-antimatter reaction between samples of baryonic matter (i.e., where most of the mass is in protons and neutrons), over half of the available energy will end up in neutrinos, which will not contribute in any meaningful way to anything that could be described as an “explosion”. Though you would end up with a lot of scientists at Homestake and Kamiokande saying “what the Hell was that?” well before the shock front reached them.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/52 "2019-11-27T16:18:17Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> A sense of belonging.
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> A sense that Americans have a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith.
> 
> Those things have been lost since the 1990s.

Lets talk about that bond of honor, trust, strength, faith.

You are either not from these parts or willfully ignorant.

Back in the bygone days when we had a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith, it was OK for cops to belong to the KKK. Lynching was OK. Blacks having to go to separate schools, use different bathrooms, use different water fountains…that was OK.

Not as OK as the bygone days of bonds of honor, trust, strength and faith when the blacks could be sold as property and savagely beaten or killed if they misbehaved. You ever hear of [Emmett Till](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till)? But the conservatives eventially had to make allowances. They could _still_ have a world where gays had to hide for fear of being beaten of killed and have the cops not care so much, so long as it wasn’t on the front page. Because if gays complained to the cops, they would arrested. Ya know, for doing _gay-stuff_. (it was illegal!) They could have a world where non-white, non-Christian and non-heterosexuals could be treated as second class citizens.

And women, barefoot and pregnant. Or, if in the workplace, OK to ogled, pawed at, harassed and told they could only keep their jobs by sucking the boss’s cock and get fired if they complained. All while working for less than a man would get. Woman were to be subservient. The office place was a bastion white men, Christian and Straight! It was good, because they a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith!

And you could practice your faith in a catholic church where they didn’t have to hear all the talk about Priest’s molesting kids. They didn’t do that back then. Because Priests had bonds of honor, trust, strength and faith!  
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

The good old days weren’t nearly as good as some people remember.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/53 "2019-11-27T16:19:13Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Has nothing to do with race so I don’t know race got brought up at all. What I am talking about is no sense of faith, no sense of valor. Nothing to do with race. Nothing to do with race.

Taking writing lessons from Trump’s notes? [I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo.](https://www.wired.com/story/trump-notes-photographer/)

It sounds like you’re echoing somebody else’s talking points when you say “no sense of faith, no sense of valor” and hoping that passes as self-evident. “No sense of faith” as in what, no faith in the president? No faith in Christian worship? No faith in general stuff? What aspect of society lacks valor?

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/54 "2019-11-27T16:32:45Z")

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> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#):
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> Michael Savage vs Dan Savage. Discuss.

Doc savage takes them both out without breaking a sweat.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/55 "2019-11-27T16:54:53Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> Its about faith, vigor, valor.

Did you get that from a bumper sticker, a t-shirt, or a random spewing from one of your conservative “heroes”?

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/56 "2019-11-27T17:23:33Z")

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The people who bemoan the lack of a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith are trying to subvert Democracy in Kentucky.

> **[Kentucky GOP moves to strip Democratic governor of his authority,...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/26/1901875/-Kentucky-GOP-moves-to-strip-Democratic-governor-of-his-authority-accelerating-trend-of-power-grabs)**
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> GOP leaders in the Kentucky legislature are pushing a bill that would effectively remove Democratic Gov.-elect Andy Beshear’s control over the state’s Department of Transportation, the latest ...

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> It also follows similar lame-duck maneuvers by Republican legislators in Michigan and Wisconsin in 2018 and North Carolina in 2016—all of which came only after the GOP lost elections for governor in each state. These schemes amount to a refusal on the part of Republicans to acknowledge that Democrats are a legitimate opposition party entitled to govern when they win elections

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/57 "2019-11-27T17:27:23Z")

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The people who bemoan the lack of a bond of honor, trust, strength, faith are trying to [keep actual facts out of public policy decisions.](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/climate/epa-science-trump.html)

> [@](#):
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> WASHINGTON — The Trump administration is preparing to significantly limit the scientific and medical research that the government can use to determine public health regulations, overriding protests from scientists and physicians who say the new rule would undermine the scientific underpinnings of government policymaking.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/58 "2019-11-27T17:30:17Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> And you could practice your faith in a catholic church where they didn’t have to hear all the talk about Priest’s molesting kids. They didn’t do that back then. Because Priests had bonds of honor, trust, strength and faith!  
> :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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> The good old days weren’t nearly as good as some people remember.

And only in some places could you safely practice Roman Catholic Christianity. Heard of the “Know Nothings”? The first nasty, anti-immigrant campaigns were against Irish Catholics.

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/59 "2019-11-27T17:36:28Z")

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Which one of these Savages was the Savage in **Brave New World?**

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**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/60 "2019-11-27T17:55:52Z")

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He was great in The Deer Hunter.

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