# Michael Savage

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047 "2019-11-27T03:27:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/101 "2019-11-28T13:21:17Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You are a lying sack of shit.

This would be a step up. In my experience as a pet owner, sacks of shit, once discarded, tend to stay gone. They don’t claim to be scentless enthusiasts of a broad range of aromas from the sweetest perfumes to the most vile stenches, nor claim to have innocently stumbled upon a rotting whale carcass that they found interesting and are curious about how we think it smells. Finally, their command of English is comparable if not superior.

_ **ADVANTAGE:** _ Sack-o’-Shit

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/102 "2019-11-28T16:18:41Z")

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I rise to defend sacks o’ shit. When I was younger and more foolish, I spent some months as a garbageman, working a University neighborhood, hipper than Hell. Lots of cats. Cat litter, dumped thoughtlessly into the oil drums provided for waste management. In the rainy summer of Baja Canada. The _warm_ and rainy summer. A riotous, noisome celebration of amino acids. I will not describe, my powers are too feeble and I don’t hate you.

I tried subtle, leaving behind plastic bags, with a note. Marginal success, at best. Escalate, its the American Way!

Walked into the SDS house while they gathered for breakfast. “Today, I’m the proletariat, I work for you. Usually, I’m an arrogant elitist snot, but today - proletariat. In the name of Eugene V. Debs, I implore you, put the goddam fucking cat litter in a plastic bag!”

Fuzzy, the woman with the Q-tip hairdo opiined “Plastic bags aren’t biodegradable.”  
“Yeah, but you are, so don’t press your luck!”

But I saw _plastic_ sacks o shit that gladdened my day, warmed my heart. Steve and Frannie, Joan, Laura (who had six!) and the guys at the VVAW house…May the Goddess bless you and keep you safe next to Her bountiful bosom, all the days of your life, aperson.,

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/103 "2019-11-28T20:19:11Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/104 "2019-11-28T20:20:32Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I’ve heard him a few times up here in New England. Smart guy? I don’t know if I’d go that far. Smart enough to keep a bigoted radio show running for all that time I guess. The one thing I remember from this asshole is that he had a feature where he’d open the police blotter and read all the entries with Hispanic sounding names with no further commentary. Just here’s a list of potential Hispanic criminals for us all to feel superior to. The guys a douche.

But remember, race has nothing to do with it! He’s a commentator! Honor!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/105 "2019-11-28T20:38:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I rise to defend sacks o’ shit. When I was younger and more foolish, I spent some months as a garbageman, working a University neighborhood, hipper than Hell. Lots of cats. Cat litter, dumped thoughtlessly into the oil drums provided for waste management. In the rainy summer of Baja Canada. The _warm_ and rainy summer. A riotous, noisome celebration of amino acids. I will not describe, my powers are too feeble and I don’t hate you.
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> I tried subtle, leaving behind plastic bags, with a note. Marginal success, at best. Escalate, its the American Way!
> 
> Walked into the SDS house while they gathered for breakfast. “Today, I’m the proletariat, I work for you. Usually, I’m an arrogant elitist snot, but today - proletariat. In the name of Eugene V. Debs, I implore you, put the goddam fucking cat litter in a plastic bag!”
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> Fuzzy, the woman with the Q-tip hairdo opiined “Plastic bags aren’t biodegradable.”  
> “Yeah, but you are, so don’t press your luck!”
> 
> But I saw _plastic_ sacks o shit that gladdened my day, warmed my heart. Steve and Frannie, Joan, Laura (who had six!) and the guys at the VVAW house…May the Goddess bless you and keep you safe next to Her bountiful bosom, all the days of your life, aperson.,

The quintessential Doper anecdote. **Master Wang-Ka** , **terrifel** , **Scylla** , (and others too numerous to [del]look up[/del] mention, those are footsteps you’re hearing behind y’all…

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/106 "2019-11-28T21:06:28Z")

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[‘I’m A Moderate,’ Says Racist Democrat](https://reductress.com/post/im-a-moderate-says-racist-democrat/)

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/107 "2019-11-28T23:18:51Z")

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That’s pretty good. I especially like the last line “The real racist here is you, for calling me a racist!”. Yep, sounds familiar.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/108 "2019-11-29T00:07:56Z")

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> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#):
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> I don’t care for his Trump approval, but he is very intelligent. He has a master’s collegiate degree in medical botany and anthropology at the University of Hawaii and a Ph.D. in nutritional botany from the University of California, Berkley.

My wife has two master’s degrees (including one from the U of Hawaii) and a Ph.D., and she thinks Savage and his ilk are idiots.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/109 "2019-11-29T02:04:03Z")

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Hell, those 9/11 Truthers keep pointing to that list of PhDs (none Civil Engineers, of course) that “question” the NIST report.

Degrees, especially degrees unrelated to the discussion at hand, don’t say squat about the holder’s intelligence.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/110 "2019-11-29T02:12:49Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Hell, those 9/11 Truthers keep pointing to that list of PhDs (none Civil Engineers, of course) that “question” the NIST report.
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> Degrees, especially degrees unrelated to the discussion at hand, don’t say squat about the holder’s intelligence.

let’s not forget the in-depth analysis done by the noted civil engineer and architect Rosie O’Donnell.

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**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/111 "2019-11-29T02:39:32Z")

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Well, I give Yankees some credit. At least he’s not such a ball-less wonder as to avoid posting in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/112 "2019-11-29T03:42:49Z")

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> [@Jack Batty](#):
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> The one thing I remember from this asshole is that he had a feature where he’d open the police blotter and read all the entries with Hispanic sounding names with no further commentary. Just here’s a list of potential Hispanic criminals for us all to feel superior to.

Gosh, how socially cohesive of him.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/113 "2019-11-29T03:53:55Z")

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There was a time when I was a **lot** younger and listened uncritically to a ton of conservative talk radio. But even back then I couldn’t stand Michael Savage and his constant, hateful bile.

A lot of conservative talk show hosts can be funny, witty at times, even charming. (That’s how many of them get listeners in the first place to “convert” them.) If you ignore the politics at least (yeah, next to impossible, I know). But not Savage Nation. Basically think of every stereotype that the left has about conservative talk radio which is largely exaggerated… Then triple it. He’s that bad.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/114 "2019-11-29T04:06:31Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> The one thing I remember from this asshole is that he had a feature where he’d open the police blotter and read all the entries with Hispanic sounding names with no further commentary. Just here’s a list of potential Hispanic criminals for us all to feel superior to.

> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Gosh, how socially cohesive of him.

God dammit, where’s the fucking “Like” button?

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/115 "2019-11-29T17:33:25Z")

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[Here’s](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=516659) a thread about Michael Savage from 10 years ago.

Here’s what I posted in it:

> [@](#):
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> I used to listen to Michael Savage back in the bay area before he was nationally syndicated. I never agreed with him at all, in the slightest, but I listened because I wanted to see what the other side thought.
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> Back then, he seemed to be a lot closer to someone who was basically reasonable, but who I strongly disagreed with, and he had a somewhat grandfatherly tone which I found honestly appealing. He also still talked some about herbal remedies and other stuff like that, clearly a carryover from his previous life. But as he got more and more popular, he became more and more aware of his own popularity, and more and more convinced that he was some kind of lone voice of truth who would go down in the history books as the savior of America, yada yada yada - and he got more and more extreme, etc. Now, as others have pointed out, he’s worse even than Ann Coulter.

I think he definitely suffered from a feedback cycle of extreme idiocy… he would say things that pushed the boundaries of what he really believed or took seriously, and the audience would cheer him on, and then he’d start to believe what he had just said, and believe the hype about himself, so then he’d push what he was saying to a little bit more extreme, lather, rinse, repeat.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/116 "2019-11-29T17:37:20Z")

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[Here’s](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=240683) a thread I started about him 15 years ago. Still accurate and timely, other than the references to John Kerry. (Remember John Kerry?)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/117 "2019-11-29T17:37:57Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> I think he definitely suffered from a feedback cycle of extreme idiocy… he would say things that pushed the boundaries of what he really believed or took seriously, and the audience would cheer him on, and then he’d start to believe what he had just said, and believe the hype about himself, so then he’d push what he was saying to a little bit more extreme, lather, rinse, repeat.

Apparently, repeated washing while constantly in hot water causes brain shrinkage.

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/118 "2019-11-29T17:58:36Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> [Here’s](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=240683) a thread I started about him 15 years ago. Still accurate and timely, other than the references to John Kerry. (Remember John Kerry?)

The guy whose HONOR was questioned (blatantly lied about)?

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [November 29, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/119 "2019-11-29T18:28:20Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> The real disrespect for the military these days is coming from the right wing, especially its highest echelons, where military disciplinary measures for war criminals are disregarded, military advisors to the administration (as well as any other military people who say anything the administration doesn’t want to hear) get publicly insulted and/or fired, and stupid-ass foreign “policy” ideas are acted upon with complete indifference to military objectives and priorities.

There’s considerable truth to these observations.

On the other hand, repeatedly voiced disgust with the idea of honoring military veterans’ service and disdaining support for the military in general is a feature (excuse me, a bug) of many leftists (ranting about attention given to vets is a continual refrain on this board).

> [@](#):
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> …ideas, about left-wing “disrespect” for American servicepeople are antiquated anachronisms handed down from fifty-year-old stereotypes of long-haired hippies spitting at Vietnam vets.

Rather than a “stereotype”, the thing about hippies spitting at Vietnam vets falls entirely (or almost entirely) into the realm of urban legend.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/120 "2019-11-30T00:07:32Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> …(ranting about attention given to vets is a continual refrain on this board) …

I’ve been here quite a few years and read widely in various sub-forums. But I don’t recall ever seeing what you claim, here.

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