# Michael Savage **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047 "2019-11-27T03:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/121 "2019-11-30T05:18:28Z")
He’s still around? I think I last heard him on the radio around 2002. He was on a local AM talk station that had Oreilly, Hannity, and Michael Reagan. I know he wrote some popular books and like a lot of the right (and former supposed liberals who turned hawk and anti-Muslim), went much more extreme after 9/11. I suppose it makes sense that he’s popular in the Trump era since he was popular back when rightwing/GOP sort of abandoned any of the limited government philosophy in favor of warmongering and racism. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/122 "2019-11-30T10:31:50Z")
**Sherrerd** , there was at least one poster known for it, but he wasn’t representative of the majority of liberals. IIRC he finally got run off. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/123 "2019-11-30T20:31:03Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > [‘I’m A Moderate,’ Says Racist Democrat](https://reductress.com/post/im-a-moderate-says-racist-democrat/) I am a damn moderate because the far left and far right sicken me. The far left likes to bully those who will not submit to their viewpoint. Leftists don’t own the world. I am a moderate. I listen to Savage to hear a different viewpoint. I don’t agree with all of his views, but he has the right to speak. This is America. I was busy over Thanksgiving; not a lot of guests, a small dinner, and a busy Friday cleaning and exercising. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/124 "2019-11-30T20:32:21Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I am a damn moderate because the far left and far right sicken me. > > The far left likes to bully those who will not submit to their viewpoint. > > Leftists don’t own the world. > I am a moderate. you are a liar. your use of the word “leftists” is evidence of that. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/125 "2019-11-30T20:33:24Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > He’s still around? I think I last heard him on the radio around 2002. He was on a local AM talk station that had Oreilly, Hannity, and Michael Reagan. I know he wrote some popular books and like a lot of the right (and former supposed liberals who turned hawk and anti-Muslim), went much more extreme after 9/11.\*\* I suppose it makes sense that he’s popular in the Trump era since he was popular back when rightwing/GOP sort of abandoned any of the limited government philosophy in favor of warmongering and racism.\*\* True. He is a economic nationalist, not a white nationalist. He is a Jewish conservative. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/126 "2019-11-30T20:35:12Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > you are a liar. > > your use of the word “leftists” is evidence of that. I use rightists as well. Those are the terms. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/127 "2019-11-30T21:31:56Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > The far left likes to bully those who will not submit to their viewpoint. > > Leftists don’t own the world. Yeah if only they were paragons of fairness and reason like those, um, rightists. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I don’t agree with all of his views… Or with any of them? I must have been asleep, couldn’t see any in this thread. > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > He is a economic nationalist, not a white nationalist. He is a Jewish conservative. Um, he might be actually kinda [white nationalist-y:](https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/02/01/michael-savage-promotes-white-nationalist-conspiracy-his-radio-show-wins-praise-racist) > [@](#): > > The conspiracy of white genocide contends that there is a deliberate scheme underway to exterminate white people, or white culture, by overwhelming Western populations with non-whites. White supremacists typically accuse Jewish people of engineering this plot. Savage, who is Jewish, blamed Democrats. > > “Unless we stand up to the racists and the genocidal maniacs who are attacking, attacking, attacking,” Savage said, “there will be nothing left to protect, there will be nothing left to save. Everything of our culture will be gone.” > > The irony of a self-described “student of the Holocaust” deploying a traditionally antisemitic talking point may have been lost on Savage, but it wasn’t lost on Vandal, a racist ex-Marine who, along with his twin brother Vanzetti Vandal, runs a blog advocating that whites return to the “barbarity” of their past and “rape, pillage and plunder” like their ancestors. Or defending [Trump’s racism](https://www.mediamatters.org/michael-savage/michael-savage-i-was-very-disappointed-president-attacking-white-supremacy) > [@](#): > > “I was very disappointed in the president attacking white supremacy. He is now saying everyone who is concerned about the illegal alien invasion is a white supremacist? He suddenly has joined who? He’s like Jake Tapper now, and the rest on CNN. That was a mistake, Mr. President. I am sorry. **That is going to cost you thousands, if not tens of thousands of votes**.” From his cherished, dear base, possibly. Back in [2006:](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Michael_Savage) > [@](#): > > Savage’s anti-illegal immigration views and resulting attack on a Catholic church providing assistance to undocumented immigrants forced Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, to cancel a scheduled interview on the show in 2006 > [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I use rightists as well. In this thread? Ever? Righteeo, then. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/128 "2019-11-30T21:45:49Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I don’t agree with all of his views, but he has the right to speak. This is America. Sure about that? If you look out the window, do you see onion domes? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/129 "2019-11-30T22:12:39Z")
Does **Yankees 1996 Champs** remind anyone else of **DerekMichaels00** , or is it just me? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/130 "2019-11-30T23:19:20Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > …ranting about attention given to vets is a continual refrain on this board > [@Sherrerd](#): > > I’ve been here quite a few years and read widely in various sub-forums. But I don’t recall ever seeing what you claim, here. It seems to me we have been averaging about one [we](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=469158)-[overly](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=740538)-[worship](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=699440)-the-[military/veterans](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410160) [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=757772) annually in recent years.\* Not that this viewpoint doesn’t get pushback, but plenty of Dopers evidently buy into it.\*\* \*a semi-random sampling of gosh-durn-veterans-get-too-much-respect threads that Dopers have started. \*\*occasionally I’ve pointed out that trashing the military is a bad political strategy for the Left, but Dopers with [angst in their pants](http://youtube.com/watch?v=7oBe63eHqWg) on the subject won’t acknowledge that. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/131 "2019-11-30T23:46:27Z")
I’m not a fan of Michael Savages’s politics and views on global warming. But a lot of his shows are not political in nature and when he just talks about his childhood as a young Jewish kid growing up in Brooklyn as the son of an immigrant that owns an antique store, it is very entertaining, he is intelligent and a captivating storyteller. He’s a really odd person, he was pretty much a huge hippie, friends with Allen Ginsburg and other people from that era and he lives in San Francisco. Like I said I don’t really agree with his politics, at least most of them, but he is very entertaining when talking about other topics, which he often does. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/132 "2019-11-30T23:48:44Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > The far left likes to bully those who will not submit to their viewpoint. Please give your experience being bullied. Not talking about people telling you that you’re full of shit or that your views are shit or you listen to people full of shit - but that you are personally attacked. Not people calling you bad names, but losing your job. Or being told you can’t buy a house in a certain neighborhood. Or not being allowed to vote. Because THAT shit happens today. And it ain’t the “leftist” boogeypeople doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/133 "2019-12-01T00:53:06Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Please give your experience being bullied. 50 Speed\*-ante’ed bucks says **Steinbrenner Sucks Always** , himself, wasn’t bullied, but is decrying (but-but’ing) the outrageous left’s antifa. Or something. So bullying. Rampant. \*_The_ poker player in _Odd Couple_ ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/134 "2019-12-01T00:57:25Z")
Is this English or clever performance art that i cant twist my little brain around? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/135 "2019-12-01T01:02:40Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > …On the other hand, repeatedly voiced disgust with the idea of honoring military veterans’ service and disdaining support for the military in general is a feature (excuse me, a bug) of many leftists (ranting about attention given to vets is a continual refrain on this board). … > [@Irishman](#): > > **Sherrerd** , there was at least one poster known for it, but he wasn’t representative of the majority of liberals. IIRC he finally got run off. Thanks, Irishman, but you’ll grant that does seem like a far cry from Jackmannii’s claim of “a continual refrain on this board.” > [@Jackmannii](#): > > It seems to me we have been averaging about one [we](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=469158)-[overly](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=740538)-[worship](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=699440)-the-[military/veterans](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=410160) [thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=757772) annually in recent years.\* > Not that this viewpoint doesn’t get pushback, but plenty of Dopers evidently buy into it.\*\* > \*a semi-random sampling of gosh-durn-veterans-get-too-much-respect threads that Dopers have started. > \*\*occasionally I’ve pointed out that trashing the military is a bad political strategy for the Left, but Dopers with [angst in their pants](http://youtube.com/watch?v=7oBe63eHqWg) on the subject won’t acknowledge that. Again, an “annual” thread (a claim that in itself seems an overreach) doesn’t really constitute “a continual refrain on these boards.” The right has certain article-of-faith claims about what the left supposedly does. Few of them appear to hold up to reasonable scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/136 "2019-12-01T01:23:34Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > The far left likes to bully those who will not submit to their viewpoint. Classic right wing projection. The Right never stops relentlessly bullying everyone, and projects that attitude onto their victims. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/137 "2019-12-01T01:27:45Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Again, an “annual” thread (a claim that in itself seems an overreach) doesn’t really constitute “a continual refrain on these boards.” So you’ve moved on from essentially denying that such views have been expressed here to nitpicking about what “continual refrain” means? Well alrighty then. 🙂 The bottom line is that Dopers who get pissy about attention and respect given to members of the military, past and present are engaging in a dumb and politically self-destructive tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/138 "2019-12-01T01:54:30Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Is this English or clever performance art that i cant twist my little brain around? A little of the latter, in an obviously Chris Burden-y way, and a little of the former, if you can twist just that _eeny_ bit more. > [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Classic right wing projection. The Right never stops relentlessly bullying everyone, and projects that attitude onto their victims. Sometimes projecting their attitude like with a certain 2010 Dodge Challenger. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/139 "2019-12-01T02:18:01Z")
> [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](#): > > I am a damn moderate because the far left and far right sicken me. > > The far left likes to bully those who will not submit to their viewpoint. > > Leftists don’t own the world. > I am a moderate. > I listen to Savage to hear a different viewpoint. > > I don’t agree with all of his views, but he has the right to speak. This is America. > > I was busy over Thanksgiving; not a lot of guests, a small dinner, and a busy Friday cleaning and exercising. Fine, you’re a moderate, whatever. What do you want, a cookie? :rolleyes: There are “different viewpoints” and then there are “nutjob asshole viewpoints”. Savage fits into the latter. Seriously, I don’t give a shit WHAT political side you fall on – _anyone_ who thinks Savage is worth listening to is a dumbass. And “right to speak” doesn’t mean “right to speak unchallenged”. The rest of us can use OUR right to speak to express how we feel about him. And I feel the guy’s a jagoff and a crackpot. As are those who listen to him for any other reason than a good laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Yankees\_1996\_Champs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yankees_1996_Champs)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047/140 "2019-12-01T02:58:31Z")
> [@pool](#): > > I’m not a fan of Michael Savages’s politics and views on global warming. But a lot of his shows are not political in nature and when he just talks about his childhood as a young Jewish kid growing up in Brooklyn as the son of an immigrant that owns an antique store, it is very entertaining, he is intelligent and a captivating storyteller. He’s a really odd person, he was pretty much a huge hippie, friends with Allen Ginsburg and other people from that era and he lives in San Francisco. > > Like I said I don’t really agree with his politics, at least most of them, but he is very entertaining when talking about other topics, which he often does. Exactly. He is very entertaining. That is all I was trying to say before I got jumped here. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-savage/844047.md?page=8)