# Michael Vick ready for next season

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [October 15, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050 "2008-10-15T16:38:04Z")
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### Author: ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/1 "2008-10-15T16:38:04Z")

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Michael Vick will be released in July 2009. However if he gets an early release he can get out in time for the start of the season. Atlanta says they do not want him. So who does? The Lions and Raiders could use help but would they dare sign him?  
ESPN article says he is benching 300 and is throwing a lot. Other than wondering how that is allowed, will that make him ready. ? Maybe he could be a running back .  
Who will court Vick?

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### Author: ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/2 "2008-10-15T16:52:19Z")

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He might get a shot as a RB or WR. His type of athleticism is hard to find, even in the NFL. He was always more of a running threat than an effective QB anyway. I would think he has no chance of being signed as a QB.

The question is who would take the risk? The PR backlash would likely be quite high (at least until he has a a few good games), and with the NFL’s crackdown on off-the-field behavior, he’d be an awful risk.

Still, I can see someone giving him a shot, with a contract loaded with outs and incentives. The Raiders are always a candidate for this type of signing.

People have been welcomed back for felonies before, so I’ll bet he gets a shot somewhere.

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### Author: ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/3 "2008-10-15T17:06:59Z")

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I can’t see anyone other than Al Davis scooping up that turd.

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### Author: ![The\_Tof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@The\_Tof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tof)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/4 "2008-10-15T17:09:57Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> I can’t see anyone other than Al Davis scooping up that turd.

Yeah.. dude is destined to be a Raider at this point.

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### Author: ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/5 "2008-10-15T17:20:34Z")

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As an ex prisoner he can not hang around with felons . The Raiders would be ruled out.

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### Author: ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/6 "2008-10-15T17:25:47Z")

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New [theme song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He82NBjJqf8) for whatever team signs this ass.

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### Author: ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/7 "2008-10-15T17:53:19Z")

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The man beat a dog to death and owned a device called a “rape chair”.

He will never take another snap as long as he lives. If no MLB team wanted to take a flyer on Barry Bonds, the only way Vick will ever enter an NFL stadium again is by buying a ticket. And even then, I hear ushers really love their dogs.

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### Author: ![Madd\_Maxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Madd\_Maxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madd_Maxx)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/8 "2008-10-15T17:59:45Z")

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Actually, the so-called Wildcat offense that Miami is running right now would fit Vick to a tee. The whole point is having mutiple backs in the backfield that can either run, option the ball or throw the ball.

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### Author: ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/9 "2008-10-15T18:03:56Z")

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I wouldn’t rule out Dallas either. Jerry Jones needs a new cornerback, after all. And he has shown a willingness to give other troublemakers multiple chances (Irvin, T.O., Pac-Man…)

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### Author: ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/10 "2008-10-15T19:12:29Z")

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The Steelers would love to have his skillset, they like skill players that can throw.

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### Author: ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/11 "2008-10-15T19:18:53Z")

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> [@Rapier42](#):
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> The Steelers would love to have his skillset, they like skill players that can throw.

You must be on crack. The Steelers do not keep criminals on their team. Vick wouldn’t be considered if he were the best player on the planet which he’s not.

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### Author: ![RogueRacer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ab992/32.png) [@RogueRacer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RogueRacer)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/12 "2008-10-15T19:25:27Z")

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I can’t help but think that a lot of you are over estimating the ethics of NFL teams. If he can play at a high level, he will have a job. Besides, he would be a natural fit in Cleveland with the Dawg Pound and all. 😉

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### Author: ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/13 "2008-10-15T19:57:28Z")

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Is he even eligible to play in 2009?

I thought he was to be suspended from the league for as long as his prison sentence, and that the suspension would not start until he got out of the slammer?

I really don’t see anybody wanting the guy. Anybody that signs him is practically guaranteed to see tons of protests, might even see some boycott action.

Edit: Think he’s also looking at some unresolved State charges, too. Not sure what is going on with those…

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### Author: ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/14 "2008-10-15T20:05:24Z")

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If Lawrence Phillips can get a second and third chance, so can Vick, IMO. He may have to play in Europe or Canada for a while, keep his nose clean, and wear a (dog) hair shirt in public, but it’s not outside the realm of possibility.

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### Author: ![CapnPitt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/edb3f5/32.png) [@CapnPitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CapnPitt)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/15 "2008-10-15T20:22:03Z")

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He’ll get another chance in the NFL. As suggested above the Raiders and Cowboys are the most likely landing spots.

And I have to second **Airman’s** post about the Steelers. No way, no chance, no how. Not as long as the Rooney’s own the team (which I guess is still up in the air).

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### Author: ![LionelHutz405](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lionelhutz405/32/536_2.png) [@LionelHutz405](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LionelHutz405)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/16 "2008-10-15T20:23:44Z")

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He won’t play in the CFL.  
The CFL has a rule preventing the signing of any player currently under suspension in another league. So, if Vick is suspended in the NFL he can’t play in the CFL.

I doubt any CFL team would go near him anyway.

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### Author: ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/17 "2008-10-15T20:38:24Z")

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So… after one’s debt is paid to society, one shouldn’t be allowed to start again?

Do you guys feel this should be true in every case?

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### Author: ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/18 "2008-10-15T20:41:05Z")

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> [@jali](#):
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> So… after one’s debt is paid to society, one shouldn’t be allowed to start again?
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> Do you guys feel this should be true in every case?

Which guys have said he shouldn’t be allowed to start? As a related issue, should he be allowed to come off the bench?

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### Author: ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/19 "2008-10-15T20:41:09Z")

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> [@LionelHutz405](#):
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> He won’t play in the CFL.  
> The CFL has a rule preventing the signing of any player currently under suspension in another league.

Ricky Williams’ NFL suspension wasn’t over when he played in the CFL, was it?

ETA: Never mind…[it’s a new rule](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Williams).

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> With Williams suspended for the entire 2006 NFL season, the CFL’s Toronto Argonauts decided to put Williams on the negotiation list for the 2006 season.[5] This guaranteed that the team would become the rightful CFL organization to negotiate with Williams if his NFL contract be terminated at any point in time.[6] The Dolphins allowed Williams to play for the Argonauts on the condition that he would return to them in 2007.[7]
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> The controversy over the Argonauts signing Williams prompted outgoing CFL commissioner Tom Wright, in his final state of the league address, to introduce a new rule that would come in effect before the start of the 2007 CFL season that would prevent a player under suspension in the NFL from signing with a CFL club. This rule has been informally known as “The Ricky Williams Rule.”

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### Author: ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)
#### Post date: [October 15, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michael-vick-ready-for-next-season/468050/20 "2008-10-15T22:39:21Z")

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> [@RogueRacer](#):
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> I can’t help but think that a lot of you are over estimating the ethics of NFL teams. If he can play at a high level, he will have a job.

I think you are absolutely right. Whoever signs him will make a lot of noises about how “He’s paid his debt to society,” and “Everybody deserves a second chance,” but make no mistake, Vick _will_ get signed because he is the type of player who can almost single-handedly change the outcome of a game. Winning games puts asses in the seats and money in the bank.

I agree that we won’t necessarily see him at quarterback, though. I can imagine that a team will want to put him in a slightly lower-profile position.

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