# Michele Bachmann strikes again

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 24, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536 "2009-03-24T01:08:19Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/141 "2009-04-29T20:04:58Z")

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[Another Site.](http://www.dccc.org/page/content/bachmannwatch)

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/142 "2009-04-29T20:08:59Z")

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Jeeeez…she really is nuts, isn’t she. Makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with Minnesota? I can hardly believe what I’m reading.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/143 "2009-04-29T20:22:41Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> Jeeeez…she really is nuts, isn’t she. Makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with Minnesota? I can hardly believe what I’m reading.

Remember that she doesn’t get voted for statewide. Her [district](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota's_6th_congressional_district) consists of the northern suburbs of the Cities up through St. Cloud. And they came VERY close to knocking her out this last time (she got 46% of the vote, against El Tinklenberg’s 43%).

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/144 "2009-04-29T20:30:07Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> Where did I suggest they were capable of bringing their twisted fantasies to fruition?
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> Where is it written that anything but total revolution is acceptable?
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> Whackos with guns, people, being stirred with a stick. No, they won’t capture the White House, but even if her nutjob fomenting does nothing but increase the level of rhetorical ugliness, let alone justify actual violence, it’s harmful. (Why is it always the liberal figureheads that get snipered?)

This. It’s essentially a form of deniable terrorism; which up the lunatics until one gets violent, and pretend shock when it happens. Nor is it new; I recall the same thing from the Clinton era. Whipping up the violent fringe is something of a tradition with the Republican leadership.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Attributing the decline of the right-wing militia movement to the OKC bombing is a bit off- the Michigan Militia and one or two other Midwestern groups were hurt by allegations that they were involved, but not the movement as a whole.
> 
> The problem for the movement has been the lack of another Branch Davidian or Ruby Creek-type event. They need in-your-face news coverage of (real or alleged) government misconduct to recruit.

Yes. Remember the “Montana Freemen” ? Quite likely not - because they were taken alive, put on trial - and made utter fools of themselves. If they’d have been killed, they’d have been martyrs and given the movement a boost - but instead they looked like the fools they were.

[QUOTE=NurseCarmen]  
Why oh why are so many female batshit righties so fuckable?  
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> [@C3](#):
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> I wish the Republicans would come up with some attractive men, so that those of use who are so inclined could muse about whether or not we’d like to fuck them.

That’s not how it works. In the ranks of the forces of evil, the women tend to be sexy, the men ugly. Plus, they tend to have hordes of really stupid minions . . . the Republicans are just following the rules.

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**Author:** ![LilShieste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LilShieste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilShieste)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/145 "2009-04-29T20:30:11Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> I thought I heard there’s a website dedicated to her fuck-ups.

Bach-ups?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/146 "2009-04-29T20:33:20Z")

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Something I thought was interesting is that Bachmann’s district has the highest foreclosure rate in Minnesota and one that’s much higher than the national average. (National average is around 1.1%- depending on the source Bachmann’s district has a rate of around 1.5% to 1.9%.)

In spite of this,

> [@](#):
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> Rep. Michele Bachmann has voted against all but one measure aimed at foreclosure relief

and has sponsored none. Instead she chooses to devote her time to real issues like Obama’s patriotism, gay marriage storm clouds, advocating intelligent design and privatization of Social Security (because her district is obviously filled with fiscally responsible people).

How the hell does this nutjob

1- Justify her uber-Christian views when she’s doing nothing to help those losing their homes

2- Keep getting elected (admittedly not by a landslide, but enough nonetheless)

3- Remember to breathe in  
ETA: [Cite](http://minnesotaindependent.com/29936/bachmanns-district-minnesotas-highest-foreclosure-rates) (foreclosure rates vary in different articles, but all concur that those in Bachmann’s district are the highest in MN and higher than national average)

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/147 "2009-04-29T20:37:37Z")

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> [@LilShieste](#):
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> Bach-ups?

That’s awesome. I want to work “upchucks” into it somehow, too.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/148 "2009-04-29T20:38:39Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Yes. Remember the “Montana Freemen” ? Quite likely not - because they were taken alive, put on trial - and made utter fools of themselves. If they’d have been killed, they’d have been martyrs and given the movement a boost - but instead they looked like the fools they were.

I remember a bumper sticker that was floating around this area at the time (late 90s): “Montana: At Least Our Cows are Sane”

😛

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**Author:** ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/149 "2009-04-29T20:53:14Z")

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> [@detop](#):
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> If I understand correctly what you’re saying is that she’s part of the Abscess of Evil ?

Abscess of Malice

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/150 "2009-04-29T21:04:36Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> How the hell does this nutjob
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> 1- Justify her uber-Christian views when she’s doing nothing to help those losing their homes

A few years ago, I read an interview with Antonin Scalia in the New Yorker in which he said that the government should not necessarily attempt to help the poor, using as his justification Christ’s statement 'the poor will always be with you." Perhaps she is coming from a similar orientation.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/151 "2009-04-29T21:06:51Z")

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[Bachmann Speaks Out Against Hate Crimes Legislation](http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/)

Because, of course, if a straight person driving a car hits a gay person crossing the street, it can be construed as a hate crime. It’s all very very simple. Just like Bachmann’s brain.

Scroll down for transcript after the video. I can’t stomach reading the thing myself.

What’s really a shame is that she actually does sometimes seem intelligent and articulate, and if only what was being said was intelligent and worth articulating, she could be a hell of a politician. Maybe she got knocked on the head as a child and something was scrambled.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/152 "2009-04-29T21:40:27Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> A few years ago, I read an interview with Antonin Scalia in the New Yorker in which he said that the government should not necessarily attempt to help the poor, using as his justification Christ’s statement 'the poor will always be with you." Perhaps she is coming from a similar orientation.

Then, by all means, [Stand Up for Judas!](http://www.dickgaughan.co.uk/songs/texts/judas.html)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2009, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/153 "2009-04-29T22:29:44Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> A few years ago, I read an interview with Antonin Scalia in the New Yorker in which he said that the government should not necessarily attempt to help the poor, using as his justification Christ’s statement 'the poor will always be with you." Perhaps she is coming from a similar orientation.

I wonder if he said that while Michelle Bachmann was rubbing $3000 oil on his feet.

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**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/154 "2009-04-30T01:56:06Z")

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Maybe news reports about her should always be preceded by the words : _"And now, on the lighter side of the news, wacky congresswoman Michele Bachmann…_

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**Author:** ![Mycroft\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/898d66/32.png) [@Mycroft\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_H)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/155 "2009-04-30T04:08:23Z")

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> [@Kalhoun](#):
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> Jeeeez…she really is nuts, isn’t she. Makes me wonder what the hell is wrong with Minnesota? I can hardly believe what I’m reading.

It is something I wonder about my neighbors as well. I and another Doper live in her district. (Where is the barf emoticon when you need it?) What spews from her mouth really does not seem to match what I think of are Minnesota values. (Or human-kindness values for that matter.) On the local Public Radio I heard that the state Republicans are trying to distance themselves from her embarrassing antics.

I passed along the “batshit crazy” label of Bachman along to my wife. She thinks it is very amusing and sadly appropriate. (Apologies to the Bat-Guano Processors and Exporters association.)

**Elvis1ives** and **Captain Lance Murdoch** , thank you for those links. I have wanted to check those sites for a while.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/156 "2009-04-30T06:27:21Z")

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Checking her wicki, she got a degree in Law from Oral Roberts University. (We will pause for a moment for a collective eliist sneer…) but did gad work at William and Mary. which I’d heard is a decent enough school. Studied tax law there.

That’s right, you heard me, she’s a tax lawyer. Not that I’m making anything of that, just sayin’, is all.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/157 "2009-04-30T12:06:20Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> How the hell does this nutjob
> 
> 1- Justify her uber-Christian views when she’s doing nothing to help those losing their homes
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> 2- Keep getting elected (admittedly not by a landslide, but enough nonetheless)
> 
> 3- Remember to breathe in  
> ETA: [Cite](http://minnesotaindependent.com/29936/bachmanns-district-minnesotas-highest-foreclosure-rates) (foreclosure rates vary in different articles, but all concur that those in Bachmann’s district are the highest in MN and higher than national average)

I was thinking about this and maybe she is on to something.

Anyone who loses their house in her district likely will not be buying or renting a new place in her district. As such they are no longer voters she needs to worry about as they will be out of her district and someone else’s problem. In effect she is strengthening her hold on the district since poor people (those most likely to lose their house) tend to be liberal.

I got nuthin on the breathing thing though. Some things just defy explanation.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/158 "2009-04-30T17:05:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> That’s right, you heard me, she’s a tax lawyer. Not that I’m making anything of that, just sayin’, is all.

Damn, we all owe **RandRover** an apology. Turns out his claim that as a tax lawyer, he was safe from being fired is right. Indeed, that tax lawyer mojo is so freaking powerful, it will keep you safe even in a later job where you demonstrate general in(s)anity.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/159 "2009-04-30T17:10:32Z")

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Has anyone ever seen\*\* Rand Rover\*\* and Michelle Bachman in the same room together?

Hmmmmm.

… I’m just sayin’

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michele-bachmann-strikes-again/490536/160 "2009-04-30T17:28:12Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Has anyone ever seen\*\* Rand Rover\*\* and Michelle Bachman in the same room together?

While this conjecture is amusing, **Rand Rover** is not batshit crazy, just kind of cold, and isn’t really a conservative- he just doesn’t like liberals.

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