# Michelle Bachman (R, Batshit)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292 "2009-02-17T17:29:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/101 "2009-02-18T15:41:34Z")

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> [@sinaijon](#):
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> it ain’t always pretty, but it delivers on what it promises and gets the job done.

mission accomplished!

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/102 "2009-02-18T15:51:34Z")

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Fuck it

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/103 "2009-02-18T16:00:57Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> Fuck it

Ok. Since you’re being a tedious jerk I prefer not to discuss it.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/104 "2009-02-18T16:02:36Z")

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Caught in mid edit apparently.

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**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/105 "2009-02-18T16:13:48Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> Never seen “Repugnican” before this moment, and I’ve been following politics on this board and elsewhere. Certainly it’s not like “the Democrat party,” a deliberate rhetorical branding by Republican party operatives. Or at least it’s not as well known.
> 
> And you know what a “shrub” is, as a unit of derisive measurement?
> 
> 1/10 of a Slick Willie.

I have heard Re-pube-li-can and Re-pug-li-can, but only from Michael Savage, right wing radio talk show personality.

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**Author:** ![quixotic78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3ab097/32.png) [@quixotic78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quixotic78)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/106 "2009-02-18T16:45:28Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> It [the Republican party --q78] ain’t always pretty, but it delivers on what it promises and gets the job done.

I don’t know you from Adam, so I don’t know if I’m getting majorwhooshed here, but… you can’t _possibly_ mean that, can you? After the last eight years?

Seriously?

If so… wow. There’s cognitive dissonance, and then there’s this.

P.S. If you’d like to have a serious debate, you could tell me what was promised by Bush in 2000 and which of those promises he delivered on. If you’d like to slink off under a cloud of, “I was trying to be funny! It was all rhetoric,” I’d respect that as well.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/107 "2009-02-18T16:47:05Z")

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> [@quixotic78](#):
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> I don’t know you from Adam, so I don’t know if I’m getting majorwhooshed here, but… you can’t _possibly_ mean that, can you? After the last eight years?
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> Seriously?
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> If so… wow. There’s cognitive dissonance, and then there’s this.
> 
> P.S. If you’d like to have a serious debate, you could tell me what was promised by Bush in 2000 and which of those promises he delivered on. If you’d like to slink off under a cloud of, “I was trying to be funny! It was all rhetoric,” I’d respect that as well.

Good to see you around, **quix**.

And he does mean every word he says. Really.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/108 "2009-02-18T17:06:26Z")

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No, for him it isn’t cognitive dissonance. It’s cognitive _deficit._

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/109 "2009-02-18T17:08:40Z")

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Well, to be fair, the Republican Party DOES deliver on its promise. The promise is that government can’t be effective. And when they’re in control of government, they prove it.

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/110 "2009-02-18T17:12:57Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Well, to be fair, the Republican Party DOES deliver on its promise. The promise is that government can’t be effective. And when they’re in control of government, they prove it.

Prove it Hoover Old School.

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**Author:** ![ArrMatey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/arrmatey/32/3522_2.png) [@ArrMatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArrMatey)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/111 "2009-02-18T17:13:41Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> They’re not here right now, are they? They’re like the guys at the end of the movie in the fortress in Vermont.
> 
> I’m in NYC fighting liberal vampires with just my dog.

Don’t want to threadjack too much, as I’m finding after reading the entirety of the thread that I don’t have as much a dog in this fight as I’m willing to risk, but … This? Made me laugh. Thanks. Needed it today. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/112 "2009-02-18T17:27:07Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> That’s a different question then the one that was asked, so the same answer could not reasonably be construed to apply.

The question was: “I’d like to know what good-hearted Republican-oriented community service organization is loathed and has been vilified by the left, to the point where its very name is synonymous with corruption and feted fecal matter among liberals.”

I’d like to dispute this on basic terms: that Christianity can be discussed as a monolithic concept in apposition to ACORN, a very discrete, and much smaller, organization, with a much more definable mission statement. That Christianity can be identified a community service organization. That it is Republican-oriented, considering that it’s the majority religion in this country and thus must be comprised in good part by liberals as well as conservatives. That it is loathed and vilified wholesale by this monolithic “left.”

It’s really just an idiotic and pointless comparison, and you probably know it. Pick an organization that can reasonably be compared to ACORN in scale and intent, that is actually, demonstrably Republican-oriented, and which is loathed and vilified by people who are clearly on the left, and you will have made a meaningful point. Discussions of Christianity, as if it can be discussed in these terms, is a ludricrous hijack.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/113 "2009-02-18T17:29:12Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> It’s really just an idiotic and pointless comparison, and you probably know it. Pick an organization that can reasonably be compared to ACORN in scale and intent, that is actually, demonstrably Republican-oriented, and which is loathed and vilified by people who are clearly on the left, and you will have made a meaningful point. Discussions of Christianity, as if it can be discussed in these terms, is a ludricrous hijack.

Club for Growth.

Note that I’m NOT **Scylla** and hold very few political ideas in common with him. I’m just throwing out a possibility that I think qualifies. Of course, I also think the vilification of CfG is infinitely more deserved than that of ACORN, but then I’m biased.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/114 "2009-02-18T17:45:40Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Alternate spelling: [Jean Schmidt](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Schmidt).

What is with this cunt, anyway? Why am I, a lifelong California resident (and registered Democrat), getting email newsletters from a (batshit crazy) Ohio Congressobject? Where and why did she harvest my email address? And why, after I put hers on my blocked senders list, did I start getting the same shit from a different address?

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/115 "2009-02-18T17:50:09Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Is their a nutjob Republican named Turner? Because I might actually vote for a Bachmann-Turner ticket in 2012. Just for grins.

Michael Turner (R-Ohio). I can’t stipulate as to the nuttiness factor.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/116 "2009-02-18T17:56:18Z")

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> [@Sinaijon](#):
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> I like your analogy!
> 
> The Dems are a glitzy slick, floor model, always selling the sizzle and missing out on the steak. You always just need the next, new, and bigger model to actually get anything done. It can handle small messes alright, but the motor starts whining and complaining when the job gets to be too big. Ultimately, you just stick it in the closet and leave it there after being disillusioned, cause the warranty expired, and you can’t get replacement parts anymore. You occasionally take it out when a long enough time has passed that you’ve forgotten all the little nuances that made it such a pain in the ass to use. You quickly relearn, though, and put it right back, shaking your head in disappointment.
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> On the other hand, the Pubs are big, ugly, heavy machine, but get the job done without complaining. When there’s _real_ problems, it’s your ‘go to’ machine. It doesn’t break down. Just a little maintenance here and there, and it will last a life time, chugging away, cleaning up the mess that your fancy Hoover won’t touch, much less handle. Sure, it doesn’t have the fancy new ‘vortex’ bagless system, it’s industrial green, and has got shit all over it at the moment cause the last guy didn’t clean it up when he was done. It ain’t always pretty, but it delivers on what it promises and gets the job done.

FOR ME TO POOP ON!

[sub]this post has been retarded by the retardinator[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/117 "2009-02-18T18:00:36Z")

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> [@Scylla](#):
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> as a generality I think it’s fair to say that the left disrespects Christianity and looks down upon those who practice it.

It’s not fair to say that. It’s fair to say the left disrespects people who clothe themselves in the trappings of Christianity to seek political power, and look down upon those gullible enough to be fooled by it. We could agree on that, if you said it.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/118 "2009-02-18T18:08:43Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Club for Growth.

Except that most people on the left have never heard of it and wouldn’t care if they did. Also, it’s a tenth the size of ACORN.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/119 "2009-02-18T18:15:12Z")

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> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#):
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> Thanks for spoiling it, asshole!

I hope you’re joking, it’s a 55 year old book 🙂

BTW, 12 Angry Men? They find him not guilty.

Hamlet? Everybody dies.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/120 "2009-02-18T18:17:51Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> Except that most people on the left have never heard of it and wouldn’t care if they did. Also, it’s a tenth the size of ACORN.

And all they want to do is help the poor bald men out there.

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