# Michelle Bachman (R, Batshit) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292 "2009-02-17T17:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/121 "2009-02-18T18:25:33Z")
> [@quixotic78](#): > > but… you can’t _possibly_ mean that, can you? After the last eight years? Wow. You got so excited that you could self righteously start twisting your panties up into a bunch, you must have missed this little humorous tidbit: > [@](#): > > and it has got shit all over it at the moment cause the last guy didn’t clean it up when he was done And yes. I was 100% completely serious when I extended the analogy with vacuum cleaners representing the political parties. Next up is a complete analogy of foreign countries by way of breakfast foods. Just guess which country will be represented by delicious Freedom Toast! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/122 "2009-02-18T18:46:04Z")
Lord Og, I’d forgotten all about ‘Freedom Fries’. Madness. Madness. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/123 "2009-02-18T18:50:59Z")
So should Santa Barabara and Martha’s Vineyard be declared federally protected wildlife sanctuaries? ---
**Author:** ![Bookkeeper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bookkeeper/32/281_2.png) [@Bookkeeper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bookkeeper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/124 "2009-02-18T18:56:47Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > Is their a nutjob Republican named Turner? Because I might actually vote for a Bachmann-Turner ticket in 2012. Just for grins. But they’re [Canadian](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bachman_Turner_Overdrive) and therefore not eligible for election! I mean they don’t even have a fake photoshopped “Certificate of Live Birth” fake birth certificate from fake state “Hawaii” fake certified by fake state officials!!!11!! ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/125 "2009-02-18T19:46:31Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Club for Growth. > > Note that I’m NOT **Scylla** and hold very few political ideas in common with him. I’m just throwing out a possibility that I think qualifies. Of course, I also think the vilification of CfG is infinitely more deserved than that of ACORN, but then I’m biased. I honestly have never heard of Club for Growth. I’m skeptical that it has received the level of vilification that ACORN has, and for as little reason. In perusing its wikipedia page, the only criticism I see of CFG is from Mike Huckabee, hardly a poster boy for the left, who has called it the “Club for Greed.” Not trying to pull a “no true Scotsman” argument on you, but I’m not sure they’re comparable. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/126 "2009-02-18T20:17:25Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Anyhow, not that you need to do things to please me, but I much prefer the format where someone shows that something is wrong and **then** calls it “batshit.” Just calling it batshit without showing why it’s false is kind of assumptive, imo. See, I’m not seeing batshit as a commentary on her ideas, but instead on herself. She has been entertaining and dismaying Minnesotans for years with her batshit antics (hiding in the bushes at a gay rights rally is possibly my personal favorite) and therefore has a higher bar set for credibility with anything else she does than someone without a batshit track record. For reference, the following people have proven themselves to be batshit in my opinion and therefore the premise is established: Michele Bachmann Al Sharpton Michael Moore Tom Cruise Ann Coulter Fred Phelps This list is not exhaustive and I’m likely to append it. Some of these people are more batshit (Phelps) than others. I share some of these people’s beliefs in some fashion, and others seem to come from an alternate reality. But they all have managed to ping my batshit meter. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/127 "2009-02-18T20:52:31Z")
Yeah, pretty much. My initial OP held her innocent of mortal turpitude due to batshittity, and snarkly reflects my actual opinion, in the sense of “po’ thing just don’t know any better.” Friend **Scylla** chose to defend her on the grounds of moral turpitude and lying sackity being morally better. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/128 "2009-02-18T21:45:01Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > …feted fecal matter … Btw, my husband pointed out that fecal matter should not, in fact, be honored and celebrated, but is, in fact, vile, stinky and nasty stuff. It’s useful in compost, and feels good coming out after constipation, but celebrating that is a bit much. …_fetid_ fecal matter… Thanks to those smart people who probably caught it but refrained from telling me what a doofus I was. Except my husband, he caught it, and told me, but didn’t call me a doofus, because he’s a sweetheart. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/129 "2009-02-18T22:06:39Z")
> [@Dangerosa](#): > > . . . (hiding in the bushes at a gay rights rally . . . Hmmm . . . bushes . . . gay . . . Just what is she trying to tell us? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/130 "2009-02-18T22:15:39Z")
Not what you think. She knows about his compulsion to clear brush, so she lurks in hiding, hoping he comes by, and she can overpower him and ram her ovipositor down his throat… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/131 "2009-02-18T23:36:12Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > It’s not fair to say that. It’s fair to say the left disrespects people who clothe themselves in the trappings of Christianity to seek political power, and look down upon those gullible enough to be fooled by it. Bill Clinton is disrespected by the left? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/132 "2009-02-19T00:25:39Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Bill Clinton is disrespected by the left? Clinton’s probably a better Christian than most Southern Baptist politicians… ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/133 "2009-02-19T00:54:12Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Clinton’s probably a better Christian than most Southern Baptist politicians… He is a southern baptist politician. 'bout par for the course, IMO, He’s a walking stereotype. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/134 "2009-02-19T00:55:45Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > He is a southern baptist politician. 'bout par for the course, IMO, He’s a walking stereotype. No, I’m afraid “successful, competent leader of vision” is not a stereotype WRT Southern Baptist politicians. And **not** because of Jimmy Carter, either. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/135 "2009-02-19T01:18:27Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No, I’m afraid “successful, competent leader of vision” is not a stereotype WRT Southern Baptist politicians. I was thinking more about the dissembling plilanderer pretending at virtue stereotype. FTR: I don’t think Bill Clinton was a bad Presdent. He wasn’t great, but he was pretty good all things considered. Maybe he would have been great had circumstances called for it, but they didn’t. I also think he got a raw deal on Whitewater. As a man though, I have no respect for him. I don’t understand how you cheat on your wife. It’s not just about respect for her, but for yourself and your children. I’ve been in control of my sexual impulses since I was 18 years old. I wouldn’t sell my marriage, my integrity, I wouldn’t sell out my children for a quick tittillation. Maybe I have a price, but its higher than that. But, it’s hard to respect a man who sells himself that cheaply. If I loved another and wanted to leave my wife, I would have enough respect for her to tell her I was leaving first. I would have enough respect for my children and myself to tell her first. I would have enough respect for the new woman I loved not to sneak around with her. I know better than to sleep with an intern. I understand that it’s an abuse of authority to take sexual advantage of a person over whom I exercise power. I know enough about lying to know that it’s rarely the deed itself that gets you, it’s the cover-up. I think you can reduce Christianity to the Golden Rule about doing unto others. I believe he reduced himself to the status of dissembling hypocrite. So, I think he’s pretty common and contemptible. I think what was special about Monica Lewinsky is that that’s the one he got caught with. I think there has been quite a few others. I don’t think someone who is that faithless and dishonest should be President, or should be admired. I think you should have character. I’m surprised that someone without character or integrity managed to do a decent job. But then again, events weren’t all that challenging and he really didn’t do much, did he? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/136 "2009-02-19T02:18:00Z")
I recall an editorial cartoon from the Clinton years: Homeowner says to pollster: “Well, I think the lousy, lying, cheating, womanizing, pot-puffing draft-dodger is doing a good job.” Better to be well-governed by sinners than misgoverned by saints. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/137 "2009-02-19T02:36:11Z")
I also hold to strict standards of sexual behavior, though some unkind persons have suggested it is more a matter of popular demand. ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/138 "2009-02-19T03:08:55Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I recall an editorial cartoon from the Clinton years: Homeowner says to pollster: “Well, I think the lousy, lying, cheating, womanizing, pot-puffing draft-dodger is doing a good job.” > > Better to be well-governed by sinners than misgoverned by saints. I can’t argue with that ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/139 "2009-02-19T03:10:26Z")
> [@Maeglin](#): > > Awesome! If you are in NYC still and want to shoot me an email, I can show you around some great vampire bars. The dog will have to wait outside, though. The offer is generous, and I would love to take you up on it, except that I’m only figuratively in NYC fighting liberal vampires. Thanks though. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/140 "2009-02-19T03:47:00Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Yeah sure. We didn’t have the guts to put 8 billion dollars for a bullet train between DisneyLand and Las Vegas into the first TARP. Could we have gotten away with that? You gotta stop believing all the lies they put out on Fox News. [http://mediamatters.org/items/200902180010](http://mediamatters.org/items/200902180010) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292.md?page=8)