# Michelle Bachman (R, Batshit) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 17, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292 "2009-02-17T17:29:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/141 "2009-02-19T04:26:17Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > I don’t think someone who is that faithless and dishonest should be President, or should be admired. I think you should have character. I’m surprised that someone without character or integrity managed to do a decent job. But then again, events weren’t all that challenging and he really didn’t do much, did he? The thing about people is, they’re complicated. You might be a jackass in some areas of your life and highly competent and admirable in others. Clinton’s personal life does not necessarily have any relevance to his ability to be a good president. Also, there’s a distinct possibility that he and Hillary had an agreement. No way to know, and it’s really none of my business, nor yours either. I’d say the same about a Republican president who had an affair, as long as he wasn’t touting/trying to legislate family values for others. Even then, it wouldn’t be the cheating that bothered me, it’d be the hypocrisy. But Michele Bachmann? Batshit crazy. That is relevant to how she does her job. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/142 "2009-02-19T05:56:15Z")
If we could be sure she wasn’t, somehow, when she stepped into her Congressional role, I guess that would be ok. Like if she snorted a big hit of anti-batshit and it snapped her into sane mode for a couple hours or so, well, maybe. It would have to be the pure, uncut anti-batshit… ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/143 "2009-02-19T06:08:40Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > The thing about people is, they’re complicated. You might be a jackass in some areas of your life and highly competent and admirable in others. Clinton’s personal life does not necessarily have any relevance to his ability to be a good president. Also, there’s a distinct possibility that he and Hillary had an agreement. No way to know, and it’s really none of my business, nor yours either. I’d say the same about a Republican president who had an affair, as long as he wasn’t touting/trying to legislate family values for others. Even then, it wouldn’t be the cheating that bothered me, it’d be the hypocrisy. If the media had a “liberal bias”, they would have spent more time covering George H. W. Bush’s [years long affair](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Fitzgerald) than they did Bill Clinton’s tawdry little tryst. Instead, they had some sort of “gentleman’s agreement” to keep Bush’s affair quiet, contrasted with “All Monica, All the Time” coverage. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/144 "2009-02-19T07:45:44Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > Bill Clinton is disrespected by the left? He is by this leftie. In fact, I totally agree with just about everything you say in your post #135. My god, I agree with Carol Stream in the Burris thread, and now I’m agreeing with you? I think the sky just fell. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/145 "2009-02-19T13:22:56Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Also, there’s a distinct possibility that he and Hillary had an agreement. No way to know, and it’s really none of my business, nor yours either. When the topic of the Clinton marriage comes up, I remind my friends of all the “odd” arrangements we’ve known in our happily married friends. Including several who had the “go out and screw around, then tell me about it in great detail” dynamic and a few who had the “makeup sex is so much better” dynamic. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/146 "2009-02-19T15:10:03Z")
> [@Scylla](#): > > The offer is generous, and I would love to take you up on it, except that I’m only figuratively in NYC fighting liberal vampires. > > Thanks though. Hey, any time. Though if you are concerned about your dog, we can probably just ride the L train back and forth a few times. Plenty of vampires there, and I bet all of them are in fact liberal. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/147 "2009-02-19T15:47:27Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > On the other hand, the Pubs are big, ugly, heavy machine, but get the job done without complaining. When there’s _real_ problems, it’s your ‘go to’ machine. It doesn’t break down. Just a little maintenance here and there, and it will last a life time, chugging away, cleaning up the mess that your fancy Hoover won’t touch, much less handle. Sure, it doesn’t have the fancy new ‘vortex’ bagless system, it’s industrial green, and has got shit all over it at the moment cause the last guy didn’t clean it up when he was done. It ain’t always pretty, but it delivers on what it promises and gets the job done. So you accept that the way the GOP operates is to fill itself with muck and sewage and spew it out at selected vessels? Welcome to our side! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I recall an editorial cartoon from the Clinton years: Homeowner says to pollster: “Well, I think the lousy, lying, cheating, womanizing, pot-puffing draft-dodger is doing a good job.” That was my attitude to Clinton. He was elected on a platform of “It’s the economy, stupid” and delivered (or appeared to deliver - the degree of influence the President can have on the economy is always debatable). I did always secretly hope that behind the scenes Hillary was regularly booting him hard in the groin for his indiscretions, but he was doing the job I voted him in to do. ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/148 "2009-02-19T16:16:57Z")
> [@Frostillicus](#): > > You gotta stop believing all the lies they put out on Fox News. > [http://mediamatters.org/items/200902180010](http://mediamatters.org/items/200902180010) You are right of course. It isn’t specifically earmarked from the LV LA maglev train. So it’s quite possible that it will go to Harry Reid’s _other_ high speed train pet project that’s been on the table for 25 years, that just happens to cost $8 billion. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/149 "2009-02-19T16:39:50Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > You are right of course. It isn’t specifically earmarked from the LV LA maglev train. So it’s quite possible that it will go to Harry Reid’s _other_ high speed train pet project that’s been on the table for 25 years, that just happens to cost $8 billion. Or it’s quite possible it means what the words actually say and the process of allocating them is as also specified. In the absence of any evidence beyond yahoo innuendo. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/150 "2009-02-19T17:58:38Z")
Sir! That innuendo is solidly supported by inference and suggestion! ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/151 "2009-02-19T18:10:22Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > I like your analogy! > > The Dems are a glitzy slick, floor model, always selling the sizzle and missing out on the steak. You always just need the next, new, and bigger model to actually get anything done. It can handle small messes alright, but the motor starts whining and complaining when the job gets to be too big. Ultimately, you just stick it in the closet and leave it there after being disillusioned, cause the warranty expired, and you can’t get replacement parts anymore. You occasionally take it out when a long enough time has passed that you’ve forgotten all the little nuances that made it such a pain in the ass to use. You quickly relearn, though, and put it right back, shaking your head in disappointment. > > On the other hand, the Pubs are big, ugly, heavy machine, but get the job done without complaining. When there’s _real_ problems, it’s your ‘go to’ machine. It doesn’t break down. Just a little maintenance here and there, and it will last a life time, chugging away, cleaning up the mess that your fancy Hoover won’t touch, much less handle. Sure, it doesn’t have the fancy new ‘vortex’ bagless system, it’s industrial green, and has got shit all over it at the moment cause the last guy didn’t clean it up when he was done. It ain’t always pretty, but it delivers on what it promises and gets the job done. No, actually, they’re both shit Hoovers. The Dem one can’t decide whether to suck or blow, the GOP one has just rounded the bend to being ideologically committed to blowing at all times. This makes more sense if you anthropomorphize appliances. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/152 "2009-02-19T18:23:38Z")
Um, does anyone really think that a high-speed rail across SoCal would cost $8 billion by itself, & that if it did, that’s where we’d run it instead of, say, anywhere else? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/153 "2009-02-19T21:01:12Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > This makes more sense if you anthropomorphize appliances. “Anthropomorphize” means something sexual, right? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/154 "2009-02-19T21:19:24Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > Um, does anyone really think that a high-speed rail across SoCal would cost $8 billion by itself Sure. We spent twice that to build a couple of tunnels in Boston. **Sinaijon** , is that the current Republican approach your favorite blowhards are trying to sell?:dubious: Blame all of its failures (it has no recent successes) on Bush, as if the rest of the party had actually been \*fighting \*him every step of the way? The shit isn’t there from “the last guy who used it”; it’s there from \*every \*guy who’s used it, ya know? And it isn’t necessarily just a coating, either. The whole thing could be made out of shit; you can’t tell otherwise from the results. The evidence, btw, is that you really are dumb enough to buy it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/155 "2009-02-19T21:26:25Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > “Anthropomorphize” means something sexual, right? 🙂 Had an SO, had a washing machine that shook like Malaria, Nicaragua in an earthquake when it went to “spin” mode. She liked to sit on top of it. I saw the problem in the belt, a little squirt of WD 40 and it was humming like a top. I didn’t understand why she was pissed at me. I mean, the soft guys, go figure! ---
**Author:** ![Sinaijon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Sinaijon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sinaijon)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2009, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/156 "2009-02-19T22:31:30Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I saw the problem in the belt, a little squirt of WD 40 and it was humming like a top. See, now you’ve finally exposed elitist liberal self. Squirting WD 40 on a belt? That’s gonna make it slip more! You needed to tighten the tension pulley. You fabricated that entire story, didn’t you! ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/157 "2009-02-20T01:04:48Z")
I will make you a bet \*_Sinaijon_. Reid’s project will not get more than 5% of the $8 billion. Yes, that is a lot of money, $400 million, but it is still only 5% (or abot 1/10th of 1% of the entire stimulus package). I would not be suyrprised if it got ZERO, but it will probably get something. So let’s go for 5%. How does $25 sound? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/158 "2009-02-20T01:32:15Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > See, now you’ve finally exposed elitist liberal self. Squirting WD 40 on a belt? That’s gonna make it slip more! You needed to tighten the tension pulley. > > You fabricated that entire story, didn’t you! If she let you pick the peanuts out of her shit with chopsticks, it would be the best day you ever had. Eat your heart out. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292/159 "2009-02-20T04:18:01Z")
> [@Sinaijon](#): > > You are right of course. It isn’t specifically earmarked from the LV LA maglev train. So it’s quite possible that it will go to Harry Reid’s _other_ high speed train pet project that’s been on the table for 25 years, that just happens to cost $8 billion. Sigh. I give up. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-bachman-r-batshit/486292.md?page=7)