# Michelle Duggar has another miscarriage. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 8, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566 "2011-12-08T23:34:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Critical\_Mass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f1d935/32.png) [@Critical\_Mass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical_Mass)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/81 "2011-12-12T02:39:52Z")
Can you imagine the profusion of internet activity should Michelle die in a pregnancy related incident? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/82 "2011-12-12T02:44:15Z")
Given how much of the time that woman is pregnant the odds are that when the end comes for her she’ll happen to be pregnant at the time, whether it’s pregnancy-caused or not. ---
**Author:** ![Blackberry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecd19e/32.png) [@Blackberry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackberry)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/83 "2011-12-12T04:10:36Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > And if one of her older children starts having children of her own, does mom get to stop? Nope. Her oldest son already has two kids. ---
**Author:** ![Tess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@Tess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tess)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/84 "2011-12-12T22:05:44Z")
I don’t have cable so I’ve never really followed the Duggars. If they’re opposed to television how do they justify being on a show (and accepting money from a medium they find so objectionable)? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/85 "2011-12-12T22:07:14Z")
> [@Critical\_Mass](#): > > Can you imagine the profusion of internet activity should Michelle die in a pregnancy related incident? Not nearly as much as if she gave birth to a healthy number 20 who was obviously half-black. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/86 "2011-12-12T22:24:59Z")
> [@Tess](#): > > I don’t have cable so I’ve never really followed the Duggars. If they’re opposed to television how do they justify being on a show (and accepting money from a medium they find so objectionable)? I imagine that they see it as a platform to get their message out into the world. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/87 "2014-05-25T22:03:50Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Damn, talk about a bad omen. Perhaps God is trying to tell you something, Michelle? She’s not listening. [Duggars visited fertility doctor about baby No. 20.](http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/duggars-visit-fertility-doctor-baby-number-20-article-1.1801096) ---
**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/88 "2014-05-25T22:20:34Z")
Okay, here’s the deal Mr. and Mrs. Duggar…if you need to go to a FERTILITY doctor than G-D doesn’t necessarily WANT you to have any more children. OKAY??? ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/89 "2014-05-25T22:43:46Z")
We live in a society in which that sort of crap shows up my newsfeed on Facebook. The media needs to declare a media blackout of all Kardashians, Duggars and anything ever related to Paris Hilton. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2014, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/90 "2014-05-25T22:52:50Z")
They will. never. stop. until she reaches menopause. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/91 "2014-05-26T01:12:53Z")
Let’s hope she IS starting menopause. It’s almost like they’re addicts. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/92 "2014-05-26T01:14:14Z")
[QUOTE=Michelle Duggar] I just want to make sure that I am ready **to catch a baby** if that would happen. [/QUOTE] Seriously Mrs Duggar? :dubious: It’s like you’re openly admitting one’s just literally going to fall our of your womb at random. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/93 "2014-05-26T01:27:55Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > She’s not listening. > > [Duggars visited fertility doctor about baby No. 20.](http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/duggars-visit-fertility-doctor-baby-number-20-article-1.1801096) I think seeing an OB-GYN about high-risk pregnancies and seeing a fertility doctor aren’t the same thing. Any pregnancy at her age is probably high risk. It doesn’t appear to have anything to do with them trying to use medical means to increase their chances of conceiving. ---
**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/94 "2014-05-26T01:58:51Z")
I watched that episode, and Michelle basically went in for tests to see if she’s entered menopause. And they both said that if she was, that was fine, although if there was another baby that would be great, too. And as far as “catching” a baby, in livestock breeding terms, that’s fairly commonly used - if your mare has “caught”, you don’t have to breed/inseminate her again. I know less about human terms that livestock ones. StG ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/95 "2014-05-26T02:12:49Z")
> [@vivalostwages](#): > > It’s no longer a uterus. It became a vending machine some time ago. Clown car. My only real thought about the whole ‘quiverfull movement’ is that if you are afraid that the heathens will outbreed you, and you theoretically believe that your Christian God is so powerful, then if he is so all powerful, then why are you worried about being outbred? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/96 "2014-05-26T03:09:22Z")
I feel that there are an awful lot of similarities between Quiverfull and FLDS. It also wouldn’t surprise me if it turns out the Duggars’ family life was really more like this. > **[Slot88: Tempatnya Situs Judi Slot Online dan Slot Gacor Hari Ini Gampang Menang](https://www.fokusjambi.com/)** > > Slot88 yang asli hanya di sini tempatnya situs judi slot online resmi terpercaya dan agen slot gacor hari ini gampang menang anti rungkat. Indonesia Gacor Maximal 2023!! My sister was the first person I heard say, “You just know that at least one of those kids is going to be gay.” And earlier this year, Michelle revealed that she has dealt with an eating disorder. > **[Michelle Duggar Reveals She Struggled with Bulimia as a Teen](https://people.com/tv/michelle-duggar-reveals-she-struggled-with-bulimia-as-a-teen/)** > > The mom of 19 shares her eating disorder past with her daughters for their book ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/97 "2014-05-26T04:21:15Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > Clown car. > > My only real thought about the whole ‘quiverfull movement’ is that if you are afraid that the heathens will outbreed you, and you theoretically believe that your Christian God is so powerful, then if he is so all powerful, then why are you worried about being outbred? Heavev helps those who help themselves. You gotta show god you mean it and you want it or he’ll wait for someone who does. Lotta stories in the old testament about the israelites getting complacent and lazy and then god wallops them with an invasion. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/98 "2014-05-26T06:10:51Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I think seeing an OB-GYN about high-risk pregnancies and seeing a fertility doctor aren’t the same thing. He’s a specialist in multiple births and [has been associated with a group that uses clomiphene therapy](http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:SSXdSQqoqEMJ:local.obgyn.net/Eight_is_Enough_Little_Rock_AR-r1260120-Little_Rock_AR.html+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a). ---
**Author:** ![turtlescanfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/65b543/32.png) [@turtlescanfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/turtlescanfly)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/99 "2014-05-26T15:54:36Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > First and foremost, I feel badly for the children of this couple. I’ve never seen the TV show, so I have no idea how things work in this family… but to have that many children deprives them all of a certain level of bonding with the parents. Maybe that’s to be expected in their religion, i don’t know. > > . I can’t say I’m a fan or advocate of having so many children, but I have seen the show, and those of you who are bemoaning the Duggars for neglecting their children or lacking the time to bond with them are WAY off base. The Duggars not only provide for their kids financially (more than adequate, but not extravagant lifestyle), but they seem to be an incredibly close family. The children cooperate in maintaining the household, as they should, and they spent a lot of time together. Yes, they are home-schooled, but so are a lot of kids these days. Of course, you have to take anything you see on reality TV with a grain of salt, but from what I can see, there is no indication AT ALL that the Duggars don’t care for their children with an incredible amount of time, patience, and love. Just because you can’t imagine raising 19 kids without having some of them slip through the cracks doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Some people can’t manage to have 1 or 2 without neglecting them. Time will tell… if the children all grow up to be productive, well-adjusted adults would you still claim that they weren’t raised well? And do you not know of someone who has only 1 or 2 or 3 kids where at least one of them is a fuck-up? I think the number of kids one has is entirely irrelevant as to whether or not they will be neglected or suffer from bad parenting. I might agree with you if Michelle was just pumping them out with no regard for the welfare of the kids she already has, but there just is no evidence that is the case. Oh, and in case it matters, I am a divorced male with primary custody of my three children, so I do know something about parenthood and how tough it can be. ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566/100 "2014-05-26T16:56:51Z")
> [@turtlescanfly](#): > > I can’t say I’m a fan or advocate of having so many children, but I have seen the show, and those of you who are bemoaning the Duggars for neglecting their children or lacking the time to bond with them are WAY off base. The Duggars not only provide for their kids financially (more than adequate, but not extravagant lifestyle), but they seem to be an incredibly close family. The children cooperate in maintaining the household, as they should, and they spent a lot of time together. Yes, they are home-schooled, but so are a lot of kids these days. > > Of course, you have to take anything you see on reality TV with a grain of salt, but from what I can see, there is no indication AT ALL that the Duggars don’t care for their children with an incredible amount of time, patience, and love. Just because you can’t imagine raising 19 kids without having some of them slip through the cracks doesn’t mean it can’t be done. Some people can’t manage to have 1 or 2 without neglecting them. > > Time will tell… if the children all grow up to be productive, well-adjusted adults would you still claim that they weren’t raised well? And do you not know of someone who has only 1 or 2 or 3 kids where at least one of them is a fuck-up? I think the number of kids one has is entirely irrelevant as to whether or not they will be neglected or suffer from bad parenting. > > I might agree with you if Michelle was just pumping them out with no regard for the welfare of the kids she already has, but there just is no evidence that is the case. > > Oh, and in case it matters, I am a divorced male with primary custody of my three children, so I do know something about parenthood and how tough it can be. Well-said. I’m no fan of the Duggars, or how they live their lives, but they aren’t harming anyone and there is no indication of abuse or neglect (that I can see) in their family. Dad has a good job, the kids are loved and are provided for… so what’s the harm? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-duggar-has-another-miscarriage/605566.md?page=6)