# Michelle Obama was my hero today **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186 "2015-01-29T02:05:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/1 "2015-01-29T02:05:49Z")
[https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/michelle-obama-not-amused-while-meeting-king-saudi-143636653-us-weekly.html](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/michelle-obama-not-amused-while-meeting-king-saudi-143636653-us-weekly.html) Plus head uncovered? Good on her. Women are treated like dirt there and there’s no reason for a proud Western woman to cater to their bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/2 "2015-01-29T02:17:03Z")
1. If she was so pissed off about the whole thing she could’ve stayed home. She’s the president’s wife, only that, she’s not a (important) part of the US government. 2. It’s OK to dislike and despise even, the mistreatment of women in Saudi Arabia. It, however, is a bit hollow if you aid and abbet it with your own country’s policies. If Saudi Arabia is such a big ally, it means that women’s rights in SA are less-than-relevant. The US governement doesn’t give a shit about women in SA. 3. Bully pulpits are perfect, but they can only take you so far. It’s easy to take a “courageous stand” when you husband is POTUS. 4. Also, the couragoeus stand means that if the Saudi King want to bring his 4 wives and make them grovel in front of them when he goes to the White House, they’s all have to swallow and let it go. Still, nothing like annoying the little Saudi bastards, even a little bit. Well done. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/3 "2015-01-29T02:24:12Z")
Fuck the Saudis. They finance terrorism, promote religious extremism, treat women like children and sell a product that destroys the world. The best thing we could all do is finance renewable resources so we can go back to ignoring them. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/4 "2015-01-29T02:24:24Z")
I love the line, “The First Lady, 51, was snapped alongside her husband Barack Obama …”. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/5 "2015-01-29T02:39:46Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Fuck the Saudis. They finance terrorism, promote religious extremism, treat women like children and sell a product that destroys the world. The best thing we could all do is finance renewable resources so we can go back to ignoring them. How would you be doing without their “product that destroys the world?” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/6 "2015-01-29T03:09:22Z")
I’m not getting it, but maybe I’m just ignorant of what past president’s wives did. Did they wear head coverings when visiting Saudi Arabia? I hope not! > [@AdG](#): > > If she was so pissed off about the whole thing she could’ve stayed home. She’s the president’s wife, only that, she’s not a (important) part of the US government. I’d be careful before believing reporters’ assessment of whether someone was “pissed off” or not. They are trying to sell the story, you know, and that grabs a lot more eyeballs than “Michelle Obama enjoys trip to Middle East”. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/7 "2015-01-29T03:12:02Z")
Religious institutions have no place marginalizing women in the modern world, I agree wholeheartedly. Though, not a particularly brave stand when it is a different religion from your own doing the marginalizing. Or does the ‘Merica, fuck yeah!’ part trump it all? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/8 "2015-01-29T03:22:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I’m not getting it, but maybe I’m just ignorant of what past president’s wives did. Did they wear head coverings when visiting Saudi Arabia? I hope not! [Laura Bush didn’t. Neither did Condoleeza Rice or Hilary Clinton as Secretaries of State.](http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/28/3616556/saudi-arabia-michelle-obama/) ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/9 "2015-01-29T03:26:59Z")
Hillary did however, wear the hijab in Pakistan. > **[Hillary in Hijab](https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/10/hillary-in-hijab.html)** > > Were any of you uncomfortable as I was seeing > > the photo > > of Hillary Clinton in Pakistan wearing a scarf... ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/10 "2015-01-29T03:29:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Hillary did however, wear the hijab in Pakistan. > > [Hillary in Hijab](http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2009/10/30/should_hillary_clinton_wear_a_headcovering_in_pakistan.html) The link to the photo in that cite is out of date. Is there an actual photo of this somewhere? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/11 "2015-01-29T03:30:43Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > [Laura Bush didn’t. Neither did Condoleeza Rice or Hilary Clinton as Secretaries of State.](http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/28/3616556/saudi-arabia-michelle-obama/) Looks like M.O. got some fashion advice from Maude! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/12 "2015-01-29T03:52:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/michelle-obama-not-amused-while-meeting-king-saudi-143636653-us-weekly.html](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/michelle-obama-not-amused-while-meeting-king-saudi-143636653-us-weekly.html) > > Plus head uncovered? Good on her. Women are treated like dirt there and there’s no reason for a proud Western woman to cater to their bigotry. I agree with adaher. The Saudis can cram their treating of women like cattle up their sandy buttholes. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/13 "2015-01-29T03:54:05Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > How would you be doing without their “product that destroys the world?” > :rolleyes: We’d all better off using renewable resources that don’t pollute and don’t increase global warming. One of the worst legacies we’ve left our children is an oil based economy controlled by religious crazies. I didn’t think that was a particularly controversial statement so I don’t understand why the rolleyes. I’m a Jewish woman. The Saudis use oil money to help spread anti-Semitism and sexism. Fifteen of their shitty countrymen scared the crap out of my husband for weeks when he saw the second plane hit the Twin Towers. Screw them. They represent one of the world’s worst societies. Kudos to Mrs. Obama for not turning herself into a non-person just to adhere to their lousy morays. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/14 "2015-01-29T04:06:04Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > [https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/michelle-obama-not-amused-while-meeting-king-saudi-143636653-us-weekly.html](https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/michelle-obama-not-amused-while-meeting-king-saudi-143636653-us-weekly.html) > > Plus head uncovered? Good on her. Women are treated like dirt there and there’s no reason for a proud Western woman to cater to their bigotry. Fully agreed!!! That country proudly remains 3,000 years behind society. Women are basically thought of as worthless in that pointless theocracy. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/15 "2015-01-29T04:06:35Z")
Ah, I see. We’ll all just magically start using magical renewable resources that don’t pollute and magically don’t contribute to global warming. I see. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/16 "2015-01-29T04:08:20Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > I’m a Jewish woman. Nu. So, where’s your sheitel? (j/k!) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/17 "2015-01-29T04:10:14Z")
If morays got lice, wouldn’t they (the lice) be likely to just drown? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/18 "2015-01-29T04:12:06Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Ah, I see. We’ll all just magically start using magical renewable resources that don’t pollute and magically don’t contribute to global warming. I see. Just because heroin addicts can’t break the habit doesn’t mean you can’t be pissed at dealers who make a fortune selling it to them. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/19 "2015-01-29T04:17:05Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Just because heroin addicts can’t break the habit doesn’t mean you can’t be pissed at dealers who make a fortune selling it to them. I’m not sure how self-destructive drug dependency and reliance upon commodities for economic progression and development are similar. But I’m kinda drunk at the moment… ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2015, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186/20 "2015-01-29T04:17:07Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Ah, I see. We’ll all just magically start using magical renewable resources that don’t pollute and magically don’t contribute to global warming. I see. We could certainly make more of an effort. Rather than pandering to fucking assholes who make grown women get [guardians.](http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/10/28/saudi-arabias-oppression-of-women-goes-way-beyond-its-ban-on-driving/) It’s like having the Phelps clan control our energy supply. The older I get the more I think Yoko Ono was right about women being the n world of the world. > [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Nu. So, where’s your sheitel? > > (j/k!) Underneath my horns obviously. 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle-obama-was-my-hero-today/711186.md?page=2)