# Michelle

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 19, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166 "2020-02-19T11:48:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/1 "2020-02-19T11:48:34Z")

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I know she said “No.”, I heard her say it. Beseech, implore, rinse, repeat. Not saying it always works, just saying it works better than waiting. Now, for myself, I am a democratic egalitarian, I am suspicious of “leaders”, favoring the wisdom of collective compromise. But these are the times that fry men’s souls.

Darth Twitterrhea will go totally ape-shit. Groovy. “But it will unify his base!” Even better, let them paint their butts blue and start carrying signs about how they hate Michelle! Double dog dare 'em! She can go on Ellen, bench press a Ford. “Well, they’ll lie about her!” Sure, got something anyone will believe?

We can’t afford to simply win, the Forces of Darkness are too deeply entrenched. Gotta crush. Rend, staple, mutilate. They ain’t that good at doing shit, they are fucking geniuses at stopping it.

Its time to seize the bull by the tail and face the situation, break the glass, this is the emergency. If we can get her to “Maybe”, America will do the rest!

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/2 "2020-02-19T12:10:05Z")

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This is a stupid fantasy. She’s not able to get on the ballot at this point in any case.

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**Author:** ![Bayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bayaker/32/3454_2.png) [@Bayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/3 "2020-02-19T12:48:07Z")

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Of course it’s a fantasy. Michelle Bachmann wouldn’t stand a chance against Trump in any primary.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/4 "2020-02-19T13:06:47Z")

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elucidator, these are words that go together well, but alas, little more.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/5 "2020-02-19T13:09:30Z")

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There’s no chance of this. There’s not going to be some savior – it’s going to be one of the candidates currently in the race. Pick one, donate, volunteer, and vote.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/6 "2020-02-19T13:56:17Z")

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> [@Bayaker](#):
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> Of course it’s a fantasy. Michelle Bachmann wouldn’t stand a chance against Trump in any primary.

He means Michelle Trachtenberg…and she’s too young. Barely.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/7 "2020-02-19T14:18:52Z")

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I was thinking M. Obama. He really needs to be clearer.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/8 "2020-02-19T15:02:32Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> This is a stupid fantasy. She’s not able to get on the ballot at this point in any case.

“_The_ ballot”? I’m pretty sure they’re still “holding the presses” on the ballot(s) for November.

A Michelle candidacy makes sense only in the context of a hopelessly-split Convention _and_ the D Party coming to its senses. The former eventuality may have increasing probability, but I’d rank the latter as very unlikely.  
In the fantasy, I think she might get very broad support from Ds, especially if she promises to bring First Hubby along when trouble is brewing in the Situation Room. In the General Election, I’m not so confident. Are there many Trumpists eager to jump off their tree and vote for her, the complete opposite in so many ways of the racist Buffoon-in-Chief?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/9 "2020-02-19T15:04:06Z")

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> [@Bayaker](#):
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> Of course it’s a fantasy. Michelle Bachmann wouldn’t stand a chance against Trump in any primary.

But imagine her against Maxine Waters in the general.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/10 "2020-02-19T15:22:12Z")

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Here’s what should be done, but won’t be because Democrats are weak: A rumor should start that she’s gonna run. Celebs and news programs should talk about it. Have a few polls done that include her name. She should hold a generic, non-specific press conference, where she declines to talk about whether or not she’s gonna run and instead hints at exciting news she’ll have for everyone “just around the corner; in a few weeks time” _and then shut up and let Trump and his minions start spewing shit._

After they’ve damaged themselves, she can announce a new children’s book or a movie or some other project that is “rah-rah America”-ish innocuous and pretend to ignore all the speculation.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/11 "2020-02-19T15:43:32Z")

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Because what America needs now is more nepotism.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/12 "2020-02-19T15:58:47Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Because what America needs now is more nepotism.

?? Confused much?  
The idea would be essentially to give, in effect, one of the best and most respected Americans of this century — Barack H. Obama — a third term. A work-around for the two-term limit.

Before crying that that would be “fudging the rules,” relax and take a long deep breath. Then tell us: Has the Party of Greed and Hatred been fudging any rules?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/13 "2020-02-19T16:02:49Z")

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Yeah, that would bother me. If sordid nepotism was what it took to sweep the swamp swine out of power, maybe I could live with that. Be kinda tough, but I might be able to handle that.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/14 "2020-02-19T16:02:51Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> I was thinking M. Obama. He really needs to be clearer.

No no no. He means Michelle Williams.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/15 "2020-02-19T16:04:32Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> ?? Confused much?  
> The idea would be essentially to give, in effect, one of the best and most respected Americans of this century — Barack H. Obama — a third term. A work-around for the two-term limit.
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> Before crying that that would be “fudging the rules,” relax and take a long deep breath. Then tell us: Has the Party of Greed and Hatred been fudging any rules?

No; the idea should be to inflame Trump and his minions so they say more and more stupid and indefensible things.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/16 "2020-02-19T16:06:39Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> ?? Confused much?  
> The idea would be essentially to give, in effect, one of the best and most respected Americans of this century — Barack H. Obama — a third term. A work-around for the two-term limit.

Right, because that’s what we want - for the first female President of the United States to be a figurehead for her husband. Women have to be shown their place, amirite?

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/17 "2020-02-19T16:12:09Z")

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Maybe unnamed sources in the Bloomberg camp can float her as a VP pick.

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**Author:** ![LAZombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b38774/32.png) [@LAZombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LAZombie)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/18 "2020-02-19T16:34:41Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> ?? Confused much?  
> The idea would be essentially to give, in effect, one of the best and most respected Americans of this century — Barack H. Obama — a third term. A work-around for the two-term limit.

That’s what Biden would be. Biden’s lack of support is a repudiation of B. Obama.

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**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/19 "2020-02-19T16:46:39Z")

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What qualifications does she have to be president?

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2020, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michelle/848166/20 "2020-02-19T16:53:43Z")

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35 years old  
Natural born citizen

I think she passes.

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