Either incredibly, incredibly stupid, or understood that they where going to throw a bucket of mud in the bath water to slow down the confirmation process so that it would go to the House where Trump would have probably been confirmed.
Isn’t the whole point of signing something that you’re responsible for what you signed? I mean, I couldn’t get out of a contract I didn’t like by saying that I never read it, I just signed what someone told me to. Could I?
There’s an entire area of contract law devoted to that very issue:
I am wondering if the Michigan GOP will be paying all the legal bills, and will this break them since they were already in deep financial doo-doo
The Michigan party’s federal account had about $116,000 on March 31, a drop from nearly $867,000 two years ago
I can certainly see there being a legal defense if someone fraudulently staples the last page of a contract to a different first page, or if the contract contained complicated language that the signer didn’t understand, or the like. But does it apply to “I just didn’t bother reading it”?
This is an area of law that will depend heavily on the courts of each jurisdiction, so it’s not possible to make general statements. The Wikipedia article is primarily focused on UK law, but that may not apply in the US or other Commonwealth countries.
In one of the well-known cases on this issue in Canada, decided by the Supreme Court in the 1950s, an elderly farmer signed away oil rights and later challenged the contract. He said he was called away from his card game and didn’t have his glasses on, so didn’t understand what he was signing at the request of the oil company agent. The SCC held non-est-factum and voided the contract. I don’t know if it’s still good law; my prof in contracts law thought it was an extreme case.
Whether that kind of defence would apply in the Michigan case? Dunno. It will depend on Michigan criminal law.
I didn’t go so far as to look at the Michigan Codes, but here’s one Michigan lawyer’s take:
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Here is one of the future inmates:
And it’s already up on the Wikipedia article about her husband:
That article is the first I’ve seen that actually lists the charges:
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel announced yesterday Lundgren and each of the other defendants have been charged with:
- One count of Conspiracy to Commit Forgery, a 14-year felony,
- Two counts of Forgery, a 14-year felony,
- One count of Conspiracy to Commit Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
- One count of Uttering and Publishing, a 14-year felony,
- One count of Conspiracy to Commit Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony, and,
- Two counts of Election Law Forgery, a 5-year felony.
Hear! Hear! And I’m laughing like a loon at their self-inflicted troubles.
I think pretty much everyone at every level involved with the “Stop the Steal” movement and the subsequent insurrection attempt expected Trump to pardon them in his last days.
Thinking about that always makes me laugh.
Needs to be a Whiter Shade of Pale number, something about “16 fake electors, who were headed for the door…”
Also charged - Kent Vanderwood mayor of Wyoming Mi and
VP of Christian fundraising organization Timothy Group
Ambiguous statement from city of Wyoming regarding their mayor Kent Vanderwood
Basically, it says that a mayor cannot be recalled before he has served one year in office (if the term is longer than two years). Also, that the acts for which he can be recalled must have taken place while he was in office. I’ve managed to dig up the fact that he became mayor last August, although he has been serving as a councilman for 16 years.
In short, the normal recall procedures do not make mayor Vanderwood eligible for recall. He can be removed by the governor if he gets convicted.
I was wondering when he got elected.
It is the sort of statement I’d expect from any city attorney. But for how long can they neatly sidestep the issue-charges of election fraud against a mayor.
If (as appears to be the case) the city’s laws don’t let the city do anything about it, then they’re not sidestepping anything. They can hope that he resigns, or that the governor removes him, and they can vote him out whenever the next election would be, but otherwise, it’s out of their hands.
Aside/ Wyoming, Michigan? And I thought our county had addressing/mail problems /A
Better include that ZIP code.
Are you familiar with the Brooks Brothers Riot, (courtesy of the perennial rat-f*cker batman villian Roger Stone) in Florida that was instrumental in getting W Bush into office?
Point being that this kind of mendacious crap has actually worked in the past, so why the hell not try again?
out of 7 states involved in this scheme, pennsylvania and new mexico used the hedging language. i remember josh shapiro looked into this with alacrity and the hedging saved the “alternate electors”. he was ready to go.
some of the states involved in this have republicans at the top and it is doubtful that state charges will happen. jack smith would have to decide to go with federal charges.