# Michigan "football?"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 2, 2011, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118 "2011-01-02T04:40:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 18\
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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/21 "2011-01-04T16:45:58Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Imagine what the Big 10 faithful would be saying if they had gone 5-0 on New Years Day

I’m sorry, I can’t imagine this. Cubs World Series win - yes. All the people, living life in peace - yes. Big 10 5-0 on New Year’s Day - not a chance.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/22 "2011-01-04T16:51:00Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> I’m sorry, I can’t imagine this. Cubs World Series win - yes. All the people, living life in peace - yes. Big 10 5-0 on New Year’s Day - not a chance.

Hypotheticals do not have to be ‘reasonable’ 😃

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/23 "2011-01-04T17:02:26Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> Imagine what the Big 10 faithful would be saying if they had gone 5-0 on New Years Day, and the SEC faithful were spinning the losses.
> 
> BTW SEC stands for:
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> "S"peed  
> "E"arns  
> "C"hampionships

I thought it was  
"S"chedule  
"E"asy  
"C"ompetition

Alabama may be the better team, but at the end of the day they still gotta live in Alabama.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/24 "2011-01-04T17:05:06Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I thought it was  
> "S"chedule  
> "E"asy  
> "C"ompetition
> 
> Alabama may be the better team, but at the end of the day they still gotta live in Alabama.

I’ve been to Michigan in the winter. I’ll take Alabama. It’s nicer.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/25 "2011-01-04T17:07:47Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> I’ve been to Michigan in the winter. I’ll take Alabama. It’s nicer.

Hey, whatever works for you. You’ll be dripping in sweat in June while we’re enjoying cool summer breezes.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/26 "2011-01-04T17:23:45Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Hey, whatever works for you. You’ll be dripping in sweat in June while we’re enjoying cool summer breezes.

Actually, I’ll be dripping in sweat in MAY, and loving it. Fuck winter.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/27 "2011-01-04T17:39:46Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I thought it was  
> "S"chedule  
> "E"asy  
> "C"ompetition

too bad, facts do not support this theory.

How about the array of teams that the Big 10 played on Sept 25th, 2010:

Indiana vs Akron  
Iowa vs Ball St  
Michigan vs Bowling Green  
Mich St vs Northern Colorado  
Minnesota vs Northern Illinois  
Northwestern vs Central Michigan  
Ohio St vs East Michigan  
Penn St vs Temple  
Purdue vs Toledo  
Wisconsin vs Austin Peay  
Illinois (idle)

Nebraska is getting the hang of it too, as they played South Dakota State that day.

Lets look at some objective calculations,[Jeff Sagarin formulas](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc10.htm):

Big 10: Best Minnesota at #38, Worst is Indiana at #77, Average 57.4  
SEC: Best South Carolina at #14 Worst is Kentucky at #61 Average 28.4

Yikes, the SEC’s **average** schedule ranking is tougher than the Big 10’s toughest. And all but 2 of the SEC teams had tougher schedules than the Big 10’s toughest schedule.

OOOOPPPPSSSSS!

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/28 "2011-01-04T17:42:46Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Actually, I’ll be dripping in sweat in MAY, and loving it. Fuck winter.

Yeah, but…it’s Alabama.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/29 "2011-01-04T17:44:26Z")

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I’d be a lot happier to live in either if one of Michigan or Alabama had an NFL team.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/30 "2011-01-04T17:48:13Z")

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Meh. I can’t visit your site to verify right now, it’s blocked by my organization. Everybody fills up on cupcakes to some degree.

Let us not forget that the bowl games are often virtual home games for the SEC. Personally, I’d like to see the SEC play some of the northern bowls.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/31 "2011-01-04T17:48:37Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> Yeah, but…it’s Alabama.

I’ve lived in a number of US states, yet I keep coming back to Bama. It’s better here. It really is. From the natural beauty to the real estate prices, to the overall demeanor of the people, to the football, to the weather. It’s better. Sure, it has some drawbacks, but what place doesn’t?

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/32 "2011-01-04T17:49:37Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Meh. I can’t visit your site to verify right now, it’s blocked by my organization. Everybody fills up on cupcakes to some degree.
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> Let us not forget that the bowl games are often virtual home games for the SEC. Personally, I’d like to see the SEC play some of the northern bowls.

Siiiigh. It’s always something, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/33 "2011-01-04T17:51:27Z")

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And FTR, only the human part of the BCS formulas was over-rating the conference compared to the computers.

Computers ranked Wisconsin at 5,4,10,12,12,8.  
Computers ranked Ohio St at 6,6,7,13,16,10.  
Computers ranked Mich St at 7,8,12,15,14,11.

People voted Wisconsin #4 in both polls, Computers average 8.3.  
People voted Ohio St #6 in both polls, computers average 9.8.  
People voted Mich St #7 in both polls, computers avg 11.2.

It appears that computers were doing a better job than the voters after the New Years Days results.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/34 "2011-01-04T17:54:50Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Personally, I’d like to see the SEC play some of the northern bowls.

That is too easy of setup, so I am not going to take the cheap shot.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/35 "2011-01-04T17:56:47Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Siiiigh. It’s always something, isn’t it?

Well, just once I’d like to see the SEC-Big Ten bowls played in the Metrodome, Ford Field, and whatever that dump in Indy is called.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/36 "2011-01-04T17:59:26Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Well, just once I’d like to see the SEC-Big Ten bowls played in the Metrodome, Ford Field, and whatever that dump in Indy is called.

The anticipated spike in local suicides was deemed to be unacceptable. Though I suppose tonnes of snow and a collapsed roof would stand more chance of stopping the Tide than the Spartan ‘defense.’

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/37 "2011-01-04T18:03:03Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Well, just once I’d like to see the SEC-Big Ten bowls played in the Metrodome, Ford Field, and whatever that dump in Indy is called.

'If you build it, they will come" or more appropriately, if you pony up the money, they will come.

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-football/566118/38 "2011-01-04T18:18:08Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Well, just once I’d like to see the SEC-Big Ten bowls played in the Metrodome, Ford Field, and whatever that dump in Indy is called.

It would make more sense for the Big 10 to schedule this type of game at an outdoor facility like Soldier Field. Playing an SEC team in any dome might not be the best idea.

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