# Michigan may be lost by Harris due to Arab/Muslim voters anger

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump, kamala-harris\
**Created:** [November 4, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645 "2024-11-04T02:15:23Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/183 "2024-11-06T16:50:50Z")

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Well…looks like what Arab voters did ended up being pretty inconsequential. There were enough other swing states to push Trump over 270 anyway.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/184 "2024-11-06T16:52:00Z")

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Yep, but they may cost Slotkin her seat in the Senate. That race is too close for comfort.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2024, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/185 "2024-11-06T19:01:56Z")

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Meh. In the 2020 MI Senate race there was about 2% that went third party and this time about 2%.

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/186 "2024-11-07T00:51:50Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Not that it would have been enough to cost Harris the state

Wednesday morning I checked the vote totals. In each of the 3 “Blue Wall” states, all of Stein’s votes would not have given Harris the victory. It is not a question of being “entitled” - it is about US Presidential politics being a zero sum game.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/187 "2024-11-07T01:36:06Z")

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Not sure why you used the word entitled much less in quotes since I never said that.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/188 "2024-11-07T01:39:31Z")

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I’m not @Steven_Maven but …

Those are scare quotes, not somebody-said quotes, much less you-said quotes.

Various folks upthread, and various professional pundits, have said that the Democrats act as if they are “entitled” to the votes of minorities and immigrants. A purported attitude which many of them supposedly resent.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/189 "2024-11-07T01:43:55Z")

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I realize they are scare quotes but it was a direct response to my post.

Pardon me for thinking it was directed at me.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/190 "2024-11-07T02:34:02Z")

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Whelp, looks like the Arab vote didn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/191 "2024-11-07T05:18:50Z")

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Or it just added to all the white male and female vote against Harris.

And Hispanic and black.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/192 "2024-11-07T06:05:51Z")

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[https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-democrat-elissa-slotkin-narrowly-wins-michigan-senate-seat/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-democrat-elissa-slotkin-narrowly-wins-michigan-senate-seat/)

A Pro-Israel, Jewish Democrat won the statewide race for Senate in Michigan. Statistically, it is certain that she only won because she won additional votes beyond Harris, even from people who voted for her as well as for Trump.

The narrative that Harris lost because she was too soft on Israel seems shakier and shakier…

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**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2024, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-may-be-lost-by-harris-due-to-arab-muslim-voters-anger/1009645/193 "2024-11-07T16:55:18Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Various folks upthread, and various professional pundits, have said that the Democrats act as if they are “entitled” to the votes of minorities and immigrants. A purported attitude which many of them supposedly resent.

Thanks for your help.

Furthermore I was referring to various posts saying Democrats felt entitled to votes diverted to 3rd Party candidates. I should have been clearer.

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