# Michigan Primary

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 29, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301 "2012-02-29T01:39:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/21 "2012-02-29T02:25:39Z")

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Wow. What does Gingrich do at this point? It should be obvious to even an egomaniac like him that he has no chance at the nomination at all.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/22 "2012-02-29T02:27:05Z")

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It does look like Romney will win Michigan. It says something that he could win in that state after saying “Let Detroit go bankrupt,” but his opposition certainly helps.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/23 "2012-02-29T02:29:26Z")

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With 35% of precincts reporting:

Romney 143,529 41%

Santorum 131,329 38%

Paul 40,249 12%

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Gingrich 22,656 6%

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I’m going to go ahead and call Michigan for Romney, and I’ll give him 43% of the vote when all is said and done.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/24 "2012-02-29T02:33:39Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> It does look like Romney will win Michigan. It says something that he could win in that state after saying “Let Detroit go bankrupt,” but his opposition certainly helps.

Yep, and it won’t be close like Iowa, so no one can say he couldn’t close the deal. Looks like Mr. Inevitable has his second wind.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/25 "2012-02-29T02:36:10Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Wow. What does Gingrich do at this point? It should be obvious to even an egomaniac like him that he has no chance at the nomination at all.

Gingrich didn’t campaign in MI. It’s not part of his strategy. He plans on doing well in the Southern states yet to come.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/26 "2012-02-29T02:37:40Z")

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The counties not yet reporting are counties that are not very heavily populated. The current results are probably predictive of the final results.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/27 "2012-02-29T02:43:56Z")

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Oh well. With 42% reporting, Santorum is 12,000+ votes behind Romney. It’s over, Johnny. It’s over!

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/28 "2012-02-29T02:44:29Z")

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> [@](#):
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> It says something that he could win in that state after saying “Let Detroit go bankrupt,” but his opposition certainly helps.

Then again, all the other Republicans have said similar things.

And I’m not comfortable drawing any conclusions with only 30% reporting, without a lot more hard data: Often, there are systematic reasons why the early-reporting precincts will favor one candidate or the other, which can’t easily be extrapolated to the rest of the state.

I’m not sure it even really matters, though: The fact that anyone’s able to even put up a fight against Romney in his home state is an extremely bad sign for him. I strongly suspect we’re going to see Santorum end up as the Republican nominee.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/29 "2012-02-29T02:52:40Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I strongly suspect we’re going to see Santorum end up as the Republican nominee.

Intrade still favors Romney at 80%. And I would give Romney even higher odds: I think Santorum has a glass jaw. Romney could squash any of his three opponents in a 1:1 match, but playing whack-a-mole tends to drain his coffers.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/30 "2012-02-29T02:54:00Z")

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Michigan isn’t really considered Romney’s home state.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/31 "2012-02-29T03:04:27Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And I’m not comfortable drawing any conclusions with only 30% reporting, without a lot more hard data: Often, there are systematic reasons why the early-reporting precincts will favor one candidate or the other, which can’t easily be extrapolated to the rest of the state.

With 66% reporting, the county map on CNN shows only these counties still processing (pop figs from wiki):  
Sanilac, pop 42,064  
Kalkaska, pop 17,153  
Gogebic, pop 16,427

Almost nobody lives in these places.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/32 "2012-02-29T03:05:10Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Oh well. With 42% reporting, Santorum is 12,000+ votes behind Romney. It’s over, Johnny. It’s over!

They are reporting all the early voting first, which Romney was expected to have a large margin with. When the election day votes are counted, Santorum is expected to carry a larger margin. Still too early.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/33 "2012-02-29T03:09:20Z")

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We could always see santorum surge from behind, like in Iowa.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/34 "2012-02-29T03:13:11Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> With 66% reporting, the county map on CNN shows only these counties still processing (pop figs from wiki):  
> Sanilac, pop 42,064  
> Kalkaska, pop 17,153  
> Gogebic, pop 16,427
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> Almost nobody lives in these places.

Many are still processing, the colors just indicate who has the lead with the current number of votes counted. If you mouse over each county, you can see what percentage of votes has been processed.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/35 "2012-02-29T03:13:29Z")

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NBC just called it for Romney. But let’s see how the delegate count goes…

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/36 "2012-02-29T03:14:47Z")

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Santorum. I sucked it up today and did my Democratic duty by casting a Wayne County vote for the frothy fecal matter. I’ve showered twice since.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/37 "2012-02-29T03:14:52Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> We could always see santorum surge from behind, like in Iowa.

You don’t really think you’ll get away with that, do you?

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/38 "2012-02-29T03:23:09Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> NBC just called it for Romney. But let’s see how the delegate count goes…

Isn’t Michigan a winner-take-all state, like Arizona?

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**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/39 "2012-02-29T03:26:35Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Isn’t Michigan a winner-take-all state, like Arizona?

No. 2 delegates per district - for whoever wins the district.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/40 "2012-02-29T03:28:43Z")

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Plus two left over, which go the popular vote winner

[http://www.minbcnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=724793#.T02ce4cgedZ](http://www.minbcnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=724793#.T02ce4cgedZ)

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