# Michigan Primary

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [February 29, 2012, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301 "2012-02-29T01:39:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/81 "2012-03-01T00:16:49Z")

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[Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-adds-to-lead-in-race-for-convention-delegates-with-win-in-arizona-primary/2012/02/28/gIQAqUe7gR_story.html)

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> Romney and Santorum each won seven congressional districts, so they split 28 delegates. The final two delegates are awarded proportionally, based on the statewide vote, and they split those as well.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/82 "2012-03-01T00:19:31Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> [Washington Post](http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-adds-to-lead-in-race-for-convention-delegates-with-win-in-arizona-primary/2012/02/28/gIQAqUe7gR_story.html)

Thanks, Russian Harpo.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/83 "2012-03-01T00:27:31Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> Thanks, Russian Harpo.

Aha! 2 smarty pants upvotes for **Beinville**!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/84 "2012-03-01T00:32:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, its Santorum, so yuck-o-rama! But still, the guy without bucks taking it to the guy with a buttload? Groovy.

It must be frustrating. If an honest man can’t buy an election fair and square, we might as well replace elections with mud-wrestling!

So the Pubs are trying that out, this year.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/85 "2012-03-01T00:35:31Z")

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Where do you dispose of the contaminated mud?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/86 "2012-03-01T00:51:52Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> It must be frustrating. If an honest man can’t buy an election fair and square, we might as well replace elections with mud-wrestling!

Once again, someone conjures the image of Newt in a Speedo. _Brain bleach!_

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/87 "2012-03-01T01:03:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Once again, someone conjures the image of Newt in a Speedo. _Brain bleach!_

There, there. Didn’t mean to put that in your head. I mean, who said Newt would be wearing anything at all?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/88 "2012-03-01T01:28:27Z")

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Its for moments like this that I refuse to keep firearms about.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/89 "2012-03-01T01:37:59Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Where do you dispose of the contaminated mud?

Pfft, hippy.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/90 "2012-03-01T04:19:03Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> There, there. Didn’t mean to put that in your head. I mean, who said Newt would be wearing anything at all?

HAWT

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/91 "2012-03-01T04:41:26Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Why is Gingrich laughing? He finished third in Arizona and fourth in Michigan.

His chance (such as it is) to be a force at all depends on his winning Georgia and other states of the South. IF Santorum had won Michigan then it was quite possible that the Southern GOP base, including in Georgia on Super Tuesday, might have rallied round _him_ as the one not-Romney and dealt him out completely. This more likely keeps him in play.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/92 "2012-03-01T05:40:35Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Why is Gingrich laughing? He finished third in Arizona and fourth in Michigan.

He doesn’t think he can win anymore, but he’s having a blast.

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**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/93 "2012-03-01T06:15:44Z")

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Image-wise, it’s not bad for Romney. He got a greater share of the vote than he did in 2008. It’s not like his popularity in the state plummeted. His delegate share sucks, though, compared to 2008.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/94 "2012-03-01T06:45:33Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> I’m not very political, but is it just me, or are these candidates some of the most polarizing, bizarre and disturbingly surreal guys to ever ooze out of the woodwork in the Republican primaries ever?

Eh, past GOP primaries have given us Pat Buchannan, Pat Robertson, Alan Keyes, Steve Forbes and David Duke. (actually, just noticed this is the first contested GOP primary not to feature Alan Keyes since 1992!).

I don’t think this primary is so notable for the kookiness of its individual candidates (certainly none of the current field are as execrable as David Duke was), so much as the lack of non-kooks. Past primaries had a choice of electable, relatively sane candidates along with the kooks. This primary really just has Romney, and the longer the Primary drags on, the more the crazy rubs off on him.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/95 "2012-03-01T15:48:33Z")

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> [@Algorithm](#):
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> Image-wise, it’s not bad for Romney. He got a greater share of the vote than he did in 2008. It’s not like his popularity in the state plummeted. His delegate share sucks, though, compared to 2008.

Yeah he may have won but he didn’t even come close to beating the spread.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/96 "2012-03-01T16:31:50Z")

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[Detroit News](http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120228/SPECIAL01/120228003/Interactive-map-Primary-election-results-by-congressional-district?odyssey=mod%7Cmostview) seems to think that Santorum won 8 disticts and Romney 6; this would give Santorum 17 delegates to 13 for Romney.

There appears to be a disagreement as to who won District 7; Detroit News says Santorum, but [Detroit Free Press](http://www.freep.com/article/20120229/NEWS15/120229013/Romney-Santorum-split-Michigan-congressional-districts) (and pretty much everybody else, apparently, including the [Michigan Secretary of State’s results](http://miboecfr.nictusa.com/election/results/12PPR/25007000.html) site) says Romney.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/97 "2012-03-01T22:31:30Z")

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“Oh, did we say that our rules require that the two statewide delegates be awarded proportionally? Our mistake - we changed it to winner-take-all a month ago, so that gives 16 to Romney and 14 to Santorum, so now everybody has to stop calling it a tie (and make sure Romney gets the ‘momentum points’ going into Super Tuesday).”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/98 "2012-03-01T22:33:45Z")

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Santorum’s campaign is crying foul over the one delegate they’re losing as the result of these changes or whatever they are. I don’t see how they can justify expanding much energy on this issue. They did well in Michigan anyway, and not that I think Santorum has a serious shot at the nomination, but it’s not going to come down to one delegate.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/99 "2012-03-01T22:48:26Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> On the contrary. I don’t think there will ever be a presidential candidate with as much double meaning to his name, and such a filthy one at that, and so I make use of the filthiness every chance I get.
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> Call me a middle schooler, but to me, it never gets old.

Well, I hope it will – that is, after this year, I hope we will hear no more santorum jokes because we (nationally) will hear no more of Santorum ever again.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-primary/614301/100 "2012-03-01T22:50:34Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Santorum’s campaign is crying foul over the one delegate they’re losing as the result of these changes or whatever they are. I don’t see how they can justify expanding much energy on this issue. They did well in Michigan anyway, and not that I think Santorum has a serious shot at the nomination, but it’s not going to come down to one delegate.

If he gets an extra delegate he can plausibly claim to have won the Michigan Primary, at least in the sense of having won the larger share of the delegates. Otherwise its a tie in delegates and a Romney victory in the popular vote.

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