# Michigan vs. Notre Dame: Who will be 0-3? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2007, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133 "2007-09-14T00:45:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Ferd\_Burfel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@Ferd\_Burfel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferd_Burfel)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/41 "2007-09-15T14:51:01Z")
You know, it occurs to me that Michigan hasn’t won a game since Bo Schembechler died. ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/42 "2007-09-15T15:19:41Z")
[QUOTE=Harborwolf] It’s not so much conviction as bloody but still unbowed optimism similar to what you would have heard from Detroit Lions fans a few years ago. [/QUOTE] The poor Lions’ fans now have even given up their “Fire Millen” campaign. 😃 Because our genius coach Charlie Weis hasn’t put in the spread offense yet, I’m afraid that the Wolverines will beat my Irish today. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/43 "2007-09-15T15:47:32Z")
[QUOTE=kelly5078] I went to Michigan (grad, though, not undergrad). I loathe Michigan. I’m from Ohio, to boot. So I’m pulling for Notre Dame. But Michigan will win the “Who Gives a Crap” bowl. [/QUOTE] You musta been teased alot by your classmates in Ann Arbor. ( I don’t like MIchigan and usually cheer for Ohio, too. ) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Socks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@Captain\_Socks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Socks)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/44 "2007-09-15T16:05:28Z")
I’m definitely wearing my Notre Dame jersey to a sports bar today to watch the game. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/45 "2007-09-15T17:21:06Z")
[QUOTE=ArizonaTeach] Well, it’s just plain ridiculous that he’s on like three X-Men teams **and** the Avengers… [/QUOTE] Nitpick: Beast is on the Avengers (or at least was at some point, I’m not sure whether the Avengers even still exist what with Civil War), Wolverine is with the _New_ Avengers. And what X-Men teams was he on besides the second iteration (after Krakatoa)? New Mutants was just the students, and Wolverine definitely doesn’t qualify. I’m kind of torn. On the one hand, my Chem prof said the test next week will be easier if Michigan wins. On the other hand, ND is my sister’s alma mater for two degrees. I’m glad I don’t care about professional/college sports. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/46 "2007-09-15T17:24:14Z")
[Just be glad you’re not this guy](http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/09/11/oklahoma.texas.fight.ap/index.html?cnn=yes) ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/47 "2007-09-15T17:44:01Z")
I wish there were a way both teams could lose–I have an acquired hatred of Notre Dame just because the national press is ALWAYS on their jocks, while as an Illinois fan I’m required by law to hate Michigan. Aw, hell, go Irish, just because I’m a law abiding citizen. Usually. But my prediction: Michigan 30, Notre Dame 14 ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/48 "2007-09-15T18:14:42Z")
I thoroughly enjoyed [this commentary from the NY Times](http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/14/sports/ncaafootball/14michigan.html?ref=ncaafootball), concerning the travails of these two teams. In particular, the following comment warmed my heart with the tang of Schadenfreude: > [@](#): > > [Notre Dame’s] offense, featuring inexperienced quarterbacks and an unreliable line, has yet to score a touchdown this season. Notre Dame has minus-8 yards rushing and ranks last nationally in total offense. It has lost four consecutive games by 20 or more points for the first time in the program’s history. May they score no touchdowns today, either. Suffer, you arrogant, overrated, pig-headed team. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/49 "2007-09-15T21:09:33Z")
Well, so far, so suffering. I hope they run the score up. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/50 "2007-09-15T21:11:08Z")
2nd quarter, 31-0. This one’s over. No bowl for ND this year? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/51 "2007-09-15T21:40:17Z")
Nope, NBC is required to get Notre Dame into a bowl game. Even without 6 wins, I"m sure they’ll find a way. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/52 "2007-09-15T21:40:37Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] 2nd quarter, 31-0. This one’s over. No bowl for ND this year? [/QUOTE] Well, if they made it, they’d just lose it. I suppose the Motor City Bowl would invite them. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/53 "2007-09-15T23:36:52Z")
Well, OSU won, and my alma mater, the University of Central Florida, gave Texas a run for their money. I think they expected to trounce us, we kept it to a 3 point game. Go Knights! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/54 "2007-09-15T23:50:16Z")
[QUOTE=BobLibDem] No bowl for ND this year? [/QUOTE] Ya know, I spent the whole time watching this debacle and seeing just how badly ND sucks (and enjoying every second of it), but couldn’t help but wonder, “Gee, which prestegious bowl will these losers get invited to just because they are notre dame, and which more deserving team will get screwed at the end of the season?”. I hope they lose every game on the schedual. But then the NCAA would have to change some rule to get them into a post-season game anyway. :rolleyes: 10 minutes to the USC game! Fight On! ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2007, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/55 "2007-09-15T23:53:36Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] I suppose the Motor City Bowl would invite them. [/QUOTE] I think it’s more likely that they’ll be attending the Olive Garden never-ending pasta bowl 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/56 "2007-09-16T00:05:17Z")
Don’t knock it. That’s some tasty pasta. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/57 "2007-09-16T00:14:49Z")
Nah, it’s bland and inoffensive. ND should be right at home. ---
**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/58 "2007-09-16T00:46:27Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] I suppose the Motor City Bowl would invite them. [/QUOTE] Nope. By contract, the Motor City Bowl is a MAC team (the champ, unless they get a better bowl) and a Big Ten team. Since ND pig-headedly refuses to join an actual conference, they won’t be at Ford Field in December. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/59 "2007-09-16T01:05:22Z")
[QUOTE=wmulax93] Nope. By contract, the Motor City Bowl is a MAC team (the champ, unless they get a better bowl) and a Big Ten team. Since ND pig-headedly refuses to join an actual conference, they won’t be at Ford Field in December. [/QUOTE] Actually, it’s also to ensure that Michigan State gets into a bowl game every year. ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133/60 "2007-09-16T01:49:30Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] Actually, it’s also to ensure that Michigan State gets into a bowl game every year. [/QUOTE] Hey! As an MSU alum, I strongly protest! We’re perfectly capable of missing out on bowl games, even with that one in the mix. 😛 Hey, this one cracks me up: Notre Dame’s first week starting quarterback , Demetrius Jones, has evidently jumped ship. To Northern Illinois University. :dubious: I just talked to someone up there, and if his understanding of the rules is correct, Jones won’t be able to play there this season. But the quick decision makes sense; he’s just inside the window to be eligible to join the team for next spring’s football team camp, giving him an opportunity to win the starting job for the 2008 season. Yes, from starting for Notre Dame two weeks ago, he’s now giving up any chance to play football at all this season, just to have a chance to start for a distinctly second-tier school next year … [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/michigan-vs-notre-dame-who-will-be-0-3/419133.md?page=4)