# Microsoft will ban Forza players who add the confederate flag (among other symbols) to their digital cars **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 2, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109 "2020-07-02T22:48:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/1 "2020-07-02T22:48:41Z")
Title kinda says it all. Here is the [article](https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/30/21308677/microsoft-forza-player-ban-confederate-flag-hate-symbols) I read about it. Other symbols are included as well including (but not limited to): - Swastikas - Confederate Flag - SS-runes - Wolfsangel - Black Sun - Arrow Cross - Iron Cross (with contextual clues) - Rising Sun I am surprised to see the Rising Sun on there. I did not realize it was a symbol that bugged anyone. Also, the Iron Cross with contextual clues. I mean, I think the German air force still uses the Iron Cross so not sure what “contextual clues” means. That one would bother me since it is open to some interpretation. Opinions? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2020, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/2 "2020-07-02T23:53:58Z")
Pretty sure over a billion Chinese are a bit sore about the whole Rape of Nan king thing. Not to mention all the other atrocities the imperial Japanese committed. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/3 "2020-07-03T00:06:46Z")
That makes sense. I guess you could say the same about Indians seeing the British flag. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/4 "2020-07-03T11:17:14Z")
Every time a Japan Martime Self-Defense Force vessel tries to visit South Korea, there are protests against it for using the same naval ensign as the Imperial Japanese Navy. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/5 "2020-07-03T14:23:42Z")
Are players able to upload and/or create custom images to stick on their cars? Most games I’ve seen where you can stick an emblem on your character/vehicle/base/whatever make you choose from a provided list. That prevents both hate symbols, and potential trademark issues. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/6 "2020-07-03T15:41:19Z")
All this will do is make the hatemongers find a new symbol. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/7 "2020-07-03T19:19:40Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Are players able to upload and/or create custom images to stick on their cars? Yep. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hlUcEbAjib0/maxresdefault.jpg) ](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hlUcEbAjib0/maxresdefault.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/8 "2020-07-03T20:12:53Z")
I guess a hammer and sickle is okay. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2020, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/microsoft-will-ban-forza-players-who-add-the-confederate-flag-among-other-symbols-to-their-digital-cars/914109/9 "2020-07-04T16:11:12Z")
Microsoft should change their logo while they are at it, since it looks a lot like a swastika.